Will I.B. retract if 2 billion don't die soon???

SDG · #1 06-28-2008, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Esther

Good grief Dan! Are you telling me you don't won't people saved?

Let me take your statement here and turn it like you want to do IB. Apparently you don't want folks saved unless it is done YOUR way!

You ask does truth matter as though IB isn't preaching truth. That statement from you is ridiculous! You are much more intelligent than that, or at least I thought you were!

IB preaches truth. However, you and I both know that men and women read the scriptures and come up with totally different interpretations as to what it really means. But to insinuate that IB is preaching a false doctrine is over the line. IMO

Not once have I said you must do it my way ... but there is a parallel between those who support horoscopic bible doctrine and the magic hair doctrine in the name of not supporting the specifics but the general principle.

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Many of RR's sycophants don't believe in the angelic protection aspect of her doctrine but because she is for uncut hair they will even buy and sell her books.

Many squirm when IB makes outlandish predictions based on faulty doctrine but because he's a futurist and is talking about endtimes they stand by him ...

Would we do the same if a preacher claimed to be the gift of discernment is a salvific necessary sign for salvation but because they still preached Acts 2:38 it's okay ...

Why is it some in your circles REFUSE to fellowship divine fleshers anymore ... they preach THE MESSAGE?

Of course ... truth matters ... some of us just want to pick and choose.

Juanita Bynum preaches the Gospel yet she ain't got the the TRUTH nor is she one of our own soldiers ... is she, Esther?

Esther · #2 06-28-2008, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Not once have I said you must do it my way ... but there is a parallel between those who support horoscopic bible doctrine and the magic hair doctrine in the name of not supporting the specifics but the general principle.

Ex:

Many of RR's sycophants don't believe in the angelic protection aspect of her doctrine but because she is for uncut hair they will even buy and sell her books.

Many squirm when IB makes outlandish predictions but because he's a futurist and is talking about endtimes they stand by him ...

Would we do the same if a preacher claimed to be the gift of discernment is a salvific necessary sign for salvation but because they still preached Acts 2:38 it's okay ...

Why is it some in your circles to fellowship divine fleshers anymore ... they preach THE MESSAGE?

Of course ... truth matters ... some of us just want to pick and choose.

Juanita Bynum preaches the Gospel yet she ain't got the the TRUTH.

I'm sorry Dan you are using way off examples.

I am talking about you wanting to kill one of our own who is trying to win the lost!

But you take exception to it because it is not what YOU would do!

I have most of his magazines. I have not read the last several due to time restraints. But tell me the magazine the article and page number of something he said WOULD happen, and not COULD happen and show me where he was wrong!

IB is a man and is giving HIS interpretations as he understands it. He has studied prophecy for over 40 years and has a greater understanding than anyone else I know. Yet, he is a man and can make mistakes, just as you can.

I think folks that are tearing down men's and women's ministries of their own organization could be a pawn of satan. I'm not talking about someone that has fallen into sin. I'm talking about folks that are working for the kingdom.

Revelationist · #3 06-28-2008, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Esther

, and not COULD happen and show me where he was wrong!

Let's make this easy and show us where he was right...

Esther · #4 06-28-2008, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Revelationist

Let's make this easy and show us where he was right...

I showed you but you ignored that post.

Revelationist · #5 06-28-2008, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Esther

I showed you but you ignored that post.

Was it in his magizine?

Esther · #6 06-28-2008, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Revelationist

Was it in his magizine?

It was in his book.

Does everything have to be in his magazine?

Esther · #7 06-28-2008, 11:26 AM

Give me an example of what you refer to as "but there is a parallel between those who support horoscopic bible doctrine".

SDG · #8 06-28-2008, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Esther

Give me an example of what you refer to as "but there is a parallel between those who support horoscopic bible doctrine".

The basis and success of horoscopes is that they never commit to sure-fire specifics but rather cryptic yet positive sounding generalities that can apply to many situations ....

In a similar fashion .... IB never commits to his predictions but makes them nonetheless ... making sure to lace it w/ non-committal language but still make it believable by weaving it w/ today's headlines, personal hunches and his interpretation of truth ....

of course ... you are encouraged to get the latest revelations of the future by purchasing his materials which btw have attacked Oneness preterists and others with divergent eschatological views.

Esther · #9 06-28-2008, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

The basis and success of horoscopes is that they never commit to sure-fire specifics but rather cryptic yet positive sounding generalities that can apply to many situations ....

In a similar fashion .... IB never commits to his predictions but makes them nonetheless ... making sure to lace it w/ non-committal language but still make it believable by weaving it w/ today's headlines and his interpretation of truth ....

of course ... you are encouraged to get the latest revelations of the future by purchasing his materials which btw have attacked Oneness preterists and others with divergent eschatological views.

Oh I see the problem now. You must be a preterist!

I see you have placed him in a no win situation.

First you want him to give you specifics that he doesn't know, unless God shows him, as the WORD says no man willl no the day or the hour, but they shall know the SEASON.

Second, if he gives that date and it doesn't happen then you want a refund.

So you have placed him in a no win situation.

But I have never heard him ever attack a person, only the teachings, which is NOT the same option you are giving him.

SDG · #10 06-28-2008, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Esther

Oh I see the problem now. You must be a preterist!

I see you have placed him in a no win situation.

First you want him to give you specifics that he doesn't know, unless God shows him, as the WORD says no man willl no the day or the hour, but they shall know the SEASON.

Second, if he gives that date and it doesn't happen then you want a refund.

So you have placed him in a no win situation.

But I have never heard him ever attack a person, only the teachings, which is NOT the same option you are giving him.

No ... m'am ... I have stayed clear of the eschatological wars and have stated time after time ... that I am a preparedist.

Be prepared for anything.

Second... obviously you have no problem w/ selling sensationalism.