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Old 07-10-2008, 01:46 PM
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Also Jesus walked according to the Written Law of Moses and proved his righteousnes thus a proper sacrifice for us. So if Jesus had to be right before God to be a proper sacrifice and we are to emulate him which is in summary fullfill

Mar 12:29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
Mar 12:30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.
Mar 12:31 And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.

Then why keep acting like the OT is a plague when it revealed truths of God. A light unto us? Messiah was the Torah/LAW/Word/Nature/Mind of God made known/revealed/manifested unto us. The reason he was able to meet the requirements of the law was because who can better fullfill the desire and chararcter of God unto his people than God himself in flesh?
Jesus broke the Mosaic law.
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Old 07-10-2008, 01:49 PM
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Jesus broke the Mosaic law.
NEVER! Then you make him a transgressor of GOD! He broke the traditions of the elders! The oral law which they taught as the "law of moses" as they sat in his seat.

That comment shows that you really lack understanding!
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NEVER! Then you make him a transgressor of GOD! He broke the traditions of the elders! The oral law which they taught as the "law of moses" as they sat in his seat.

That comment shows that you really lack understanding!
weeeellll, he sure didnt chastize his followers for not washing their hands and doing stuff on saturdays....
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NEVER! Then you make him a transgressor of GOD! He broke the traditions of the elders! The oral law which they taught as the "law of moses" as they sat in his seat.

That comment shows that you really lack understanding!
How about I give you a verse that say he broke the law? It doesn't say the Jews thought he broke the law. Notice it is not someone speacking but Biblical narrative and therefore true.

John 5:5
Jesus saith unto him, Rise, take up thy bed, and walk.

John 5:18
Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.
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How about I give you a verse that say he broke the law? It doesn't say the Jews thought he broke the law. Notice it is not someone speacking but Biblical narrative and therefore true.

John 5:5
Jesus saith unto him, Rise, take up thy bed, and walk.

John 5:18
Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.
So God can sin and his nature change? God can lie and break his own law? God cannot go against his OWN WORD! It is his nature! Seriously man you need to reavaluate carefully what you are saying. To break the law would have made him a false prophet according to what God told Israel to judge a prophet on. To change the law is also a sin. You make Jesus a sinner!
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Also he did not break the law he broke mens rules and perceptions and adding to thus making them equal with God. They perverted the word by adding to!
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Also he did not break the law he broke mens rules and perceptions and adding to thus making them equal with God. They perverted the word by adding to!
My brother he broke the Sabbath. that is NOT mens rules and preceptions.

Honor the Sabbath and keep it holy is one of the big ones....
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Also he did not break the law he broke mens rules and perceptions and adding to thus making them equal with God. They perverted the word by adding to!
Exactly!
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So God can sin and his nature change? God can lie and break his own law? God cannot go against his OWN WORD! It is his nature! Seriously man you need to reavaluate carefully what you are saying. To break the law would have made him a false prophet according to what God told Israel to judge a prophet on. To change the law is also a sin. You make Jesus a sinner!
This is what the Jews did and the reason why they crucified Him.
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So God can sin and his nature change? God can lie and break his own law? God cannot go against his OWN WORD! It is his nature! Seriously man you need to reavaluate carefully what you are saying. To break the law would have made him a false prophet according to what God told Israel to judge a prophet on. To change the law is also a sin. You make Jesus a sinner!
You sure have a problem inserting your own take on what Scripture plainly says. Jesus was the New Priest who brought a NEW law.

So did God lie when he inspired John to write that Jesus broke the law, or was he lying in the second part of the clause that he made Himself equal with God?
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