with the other question above show me where in the Bible the moment "WHEN" the blood is applied. I want it stated in text. Yes it is a trick question to some extent and it feeds of the previous question in my previous post.
I have heard these arguments over the original Greek in Acts 2:38, and they all sound like Bill Clinton when he said, "it depends on what the definition of is, is."
First of all if it really means what they say, then why do none of the translations of the Bible have like it that? I have looked at MANY English translations, and 4 or 5 Spanish. They all agree. In other words, there are no translations that would support their opinion of the Greek.
Secondly, baptism for the remission sins in not only found in Acts 2:38. There are numerous Old Testament types going all the way back to the book of Exodus that give clear indication what baptism is for. How can we ignore that??? Also, what about Romans 6 and Acts 22:16???
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I have heard these arguments over the original Greek in Acts 2:38, and they all sound like Bill Clinton when he said, "it depends on what the definition of is, is."
First of all if it really means what they say, then why do none of the translations of the Bible have like it that? I have looked at MANY English translations, and 4 or 5 Spanish. They all agree. In other words, there are no translations that would support their opinion of the Greek.
Secondly, baptism for the remission sins in not only found in Acts 2:38. There are numerous Old Testament types going all the way back to the book of Exodus that give clear indication what baptism is for. How can we ignore that??? Also, what about Romans 6 and Acts 22:16???
I must disagree, Ferd. It's not a good answer and it is a poor example. Bill Clinton's comment wanted to give multiple definitions to the word "is". Those who seek to separate remittance and forgiveness attempt to do the same thing with the Greek, give the same word multiple meanings and they get to choose which meaning it has based on what they want the verse to say.
The fact is the Scripture does not distinguish between the two.
Sam is correct on this.
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with the other question above show me where in the Bible the moment "WHEN" the blood is applied. I want it stated in text. Yes it is a trick question to some extent and it feeds of the previous question in my previous post.
Luk 24:47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem
Notice it says Repentance & Remission? Why say Repentance & Repentance?
Remission happens in his name.
Act 22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.
If remission of sins is preached in his name, happens in his name, when does his name get appied to our life-in baptism!
And that repentance [with a view to and as the condition of] forgiveness of sins should be preached in His name to all nations, beginning from Jerusalem.
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Again, I ask where does the Bible say the blood is applied.
Alot of inference but no direct scripture yet. DIRECT scripture! Not the use of the words of remission or forgiveness but pointing to the actual application or point in time.
And that repentance [with a view to and as the condition of] forgiveness of sins should be preached in His name to all nations, beginning from Jerusalem.
I would say repentance and remission are two different aspects of salvation not the same event. Also the answer is in the Bible but one must undersatndthe most basic scripture.
Without shedding of blood there is no remission of sins. The answer is in the text in relation to a few scriptures.
add that to
"What is the parallel or common symbol of "the blood"??????????? " or the shedding of blood.
Luk 24:47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem
Notice it says Repentance & Remission? Why say Repentance & Repentance?
Remission happens in his name.
Act 22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.
If remission of sins is preached in his name, happens in his name, when does his name get appied to our life-in baptism!
Baptism & Washing away sins, Hmmmm?
Your arguments rest entirely on the way you have interpreted a translation.
ESV
And now why do you wait?(A) Rise and be baptized and(B) wash away your sins,(C) calling on his name.'
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What are you waiting for? Get up and be baptized. Have your sins washed away by calling on the name of the Lord.’
Amplified
And now, why do you delay? Rise and be baptized, and by calling upon His name, wash away your sins.
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And that repentance [with a view to and as the condition of] forgiveness of sins should be preached in His name to all nations, beginning from Jerusalem.
Hey Amplified Bible is the correct one, or should I say, whoever you look to that agrees with you is?
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