It is wrong to Ordain new Christians as Ministers

[Rico]

Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn

If our Lord did not begin ministry until after 30 years of training.... we should not put Novices in the work of the Kingdom....

Paul preached Christ in the Synagouge... which was simply a testimony of his converstion.. he had NO POSITION in five fold ministry until he 3 years were up

This is pure speculation on your part, DV. The Bible does not say what he did during those three years. Give it up already. No one is saying to put someone in a pulpit right after they come out of the water.

Originally Posted by Rico

This is pure speculation on your part, DV. The Bible does not say what he did during those three years. Give it up already. No one is saying to put someone in a pulpit right after they come out of the water.

Your in no position sir to tell me to give up anything.. I wouldn't give up my right to believe what I see in scripture for you or any of your commands......

I will stick with Pauls clear teaching where he FORBIDS a NOVICE to be ordained into ministry.... and looking at his own life... he was TAUGHT BY THE SPIRIT for 3 years.. before entering into his Apostleship......

Now defy it... if you want but its in the book

[Rico]

Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn

Your in no position sir to tell me to give up anything.. I wouldn't give up my right to believe what I see in scripture for you or any of your commands......

I will stick with Pauls clear teaching where he FORBIDS a NOVICE to be ordained into ministry.... and looking at his own life... he was TAUGHT BY THE SPIRIT for 3 years.. before entering into his Apostleship......

Now defy it... if you want but its in the book

Hogwash! You have no scripture to back up that he was taught by the Spirit for three years before he started preaching. You're reading what you want to into the Word of God to justify your own thoughts on the matter. The fact of the matter is that the Bible says he started preaching Jesus shortly after his conversion. A matter of days, not years.

Originally Posted by Rico

Hogwash! You have no scripture to back up that he was taught by the Spirit for three years before he started preaching. You're reading what you want to into the Word of God to justify your own thoughts on the matter. The fact of the matter is that the Bible says he started preaching Jesus shortly after his conversion. A matter of days, not years.

As Baron informed you... look up PREACH ----- sharing ones testimony of conversion does not place them in pulpit ministry nor does it place them in five fold ministry.... PAUL did not enter his ministry of authority until after these 3 years

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn

As Baron informed you... look up PREACH ----- sharing ones testimony of conversion does not place them in pulpit ministry nor does it place them in five fold ministry.... PAUL did not enter his ministry of authority until after these 3 years

Paul lays out in 1 Timothy the "requirements" church leadership (aka ministry). He was thorough, but he did not give an arbitrary time frame.

The Methodists have a time frame and it is just the way they do it. You don't have to do it their way and you don't have to be a Methodist "minister". They would tell you that it is Biblical to allow time for spiritual growth and maturity.

I agree with them and I agree with you-- up to that point.

They do not attempt to tie God to their prescribed method, it is just what they do and how they do it-- like it or leave it.

That is the way to be-- have your requirements, standards and call them your own and not God's. There is nothing wrong with doing it this way and in the end, it is much more honest.

This goes for ALL STANDARDS.