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Old 07-17-2008, 11:01 PM
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And some things have been falsely made doctrine, when they should have been guidelines...
see: lifestyle restrictions above.. lol
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Some things that were taught as absolute, with all due respect to those that came before us and trailed the path, are obsolete.

Most of them are minor things pertaining to lifestyle restrictions.
I would say that the church has experienced less power from God because of the cares of the world...which include lifestyle "freedoms." I don't consider them minor. The same fight to accept radio is the same spirit that is fighting to accept all media. The things that enticed carnality back then are accepted today.

There sure has been a shift, now that I think about it...and it has been going on for longer than we know.
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Old 07-17-2008, 11:16 PM
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I would say that the church has experienced less power from God because of the cares of the world...which include lifestyle "freedoms." I don't consider them minor. The same fight to accept radio is the same spirit that is fighting to accept all media. The things that enticed carnality back then are accepted today.

There sure has been a shift, now that I think about it...and it has been going on for longer than we know.
This is my take on it:
The current is shifting. Not everyone will be able to keep afloat. Some will drown and die. Others will be carried off into false doctrine. But, that happens all the time.
Those that don't want to go with the current will let down their anchor and stay put.

Not all change is bad. Do you not listen to the radio??
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Old 07-17-2008, 11:25 PM
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This is my take on it:
The current is shifting. Not everyone will be able to keep afloat. Some will drown and die. Others will be carried off into false doctrine. But, that happens all the time.
Those that don't want to go with the current will let down their anchor and stay put.

Not all change is bad. Do you not listen to the radio??
Every form of media I see hear is for entertainment. I conduct business on the internet, but surfing is for entertainment. I don't need it, except to conduct business, which, in and of itself, can be scary for those who don't believe in the rapture proceding the tribulation.

Those who do "need" media for entertainment have very shallow lives.
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Every form of media I see hear is for entertainment. I conduct business on the internet, but surfing is for entertainment. I don't need it, except to conduct business, which, in and of itself, can be scary for those who don't believe in the rapture proceding the tribulation.

Those who do "need" media for entertainment have very shallow lives.
And theme parks are out?
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The current is shifting in the Apostolic church.
The current what?
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Every form of media I see hear is for entertainment. I conduct business on the internet, but surfing is for entertainment. I don't need it, except to conduct business, which, in and of itself, can be scary for those who don't believe in the rapture proceding the tribulation.

Those who do "need" media for entertainment have very shallow lives.
I vote this for most asinine post of the week.
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  4. That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
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Old 07-18-2008, 01:20 AM
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How does the Apostolic change anything without being outside their doctrine? How is this NOT carnal?
You know our "Apostolic" fore-fathers were Trinitarian, baptized in Trinity many of them and did not all believe in the baptism of the Spirit, tongues or standards....yet they all changed...

And many of them realized some of the things they believed as Apostolics were unbiblical and un-necessary and changed like not wearing the color red.

Change is not bad
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Old 07-18-2008, 07:35 AM
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You know our "Apostolic" fore-fathers were Trinitarian, baptized in Trinity many of them and did not all believe in the baptism of the Spirit, tongues or standards....yet they all changed...
You must be Baptist. Mine are found in the book of Acts.
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I vote this for most asinine post of the week.
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