Do you believe in Pentecostal Shouting?

#1 07-18-2008, 02:20 PM

Bro. Eastman... you are preaching this Sunday about God... you have three women in the church who begin running around the sanctuary... then they do a few flip flops... one walks the pews... the other is screaming uncontrollably... and there is a SINNER in your midst who needs a Saviour... now those women are just using their emotions to Praise God and according to you.. thats in order because this is supposedly GOD making them do this.......

God is in the stillness... Remember the Still Small Voice.. God was not in the thunder and lightning.... He loves to be reverenced.... He's not looking for a Party as much as he is reverence

Rico · #2 07-18-2008, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn

Bro. Eastman... you are preaching this Sunday about God... you have three women in the church who begin running around the sanctuary... then they do a few flip flops... one walks the pews... the other is screaming uncontrollably... and there is a SINNER in your midst who needs a Saviour... now those women are just using their emotions to Praise God and according to you.. thats in order because this is supposedly GOD making them do this.......

God is in the stillness... Remember the Still Small Voice.. God was not in the thunder and lightning.... He loves to be reverenced.... He's not looking for a Party as much as he is reverence

At first the sinner woman doesn't know what to think about all these people running, jumping, and having a good time. Then she starts to wonder what it is they are so excited about. She just has to know what it is that makes these people get so happy about their God. Then she decides that, whatever it is these people have she definitely wants, and another name is added to the Book of Life. I just love a happy ending. Don't you?

#3 07-18-2008, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Rico

At first the sinner woman doesn't know what to think about all these people running, jumping, and having a good time. Then she starts to wonder what it is they are so excited about. She just has to know what it is that makes these people get so happy about their God. Then she decides that, whatever it is these people have she definitely wants, and another name is added to the Book of Life. I just love a happy ending. Don't you?

Paul actually said she would think you were a bunch of crazy people.. he used the harder word MAD

BrotherEastman · #4 07-18-2008, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn

Paul actually said she would think you were a bunch of crazy people.. he used the harder word MAD

So, Paul said that the hypothetical woman would think that we were a bunch of crazy people? Really? Where?

#5 07-18-2008, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

So, Paul said that the hypothetical woman would think that we were a bunch of crazy people? Really? Where?

Bro. Eastman, surely you are more versed in scripture to not know what I'm referring to.. When Paul was setting the church in order and he then explains to them the reason he is calling for more order in the church...lest a visitor would walk in and think you were MAD or CRAZY

Rico · #6 07-18-2008, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn

Paul actually said she would think you were a bunch of crazy people.. he used the harder word MAD

MAD. That's how I would describe around 80% of the things I've seen you post. But, to each his own, so.................

BrotherEastman · #7 07-18-2008, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Rico

MAD. That's how I would describe around 80% of the things I've seen you post. But, to each his own, so.................

The problem lies in the fact that he is trying to use I Corinthians 14 for his argument, but I wonder if he knows he is taking his text out of context. Herein lies the problem, he has an argument, but I have an experience; my experience trumps his argument because he hasn't adequately shown or explained his texts, nor do I think he is capable of doing so.

#8 07-19-2008, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

The problem lies in the fact that he is trying to use I Corinthians 14 for his argument, but I wonder if he knows he is taking his text out of context. Herein lies the problem, he has an argument, but I have an experience; my experience trumps his argument because he hasn't adequately shown or explained his texts, nor do I think he is capable of doing so.

Yes, and the Polygamist use the same argument.. they have had an experience from God,, a command to be in Polygamy.. of course this command is not in the word its just been their experience....

ANY EXPERIENCE that does not line up with scripture is just that AN EXPERIENCE

BrotherEastman · #9 07-18-2008, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn

Bro. Eastman... you are preaching this Sunday about God... you have three women in the church who begin running around the sanctuary... then they do a few flip flops... one walks the pews... the other is screaming uncontrollably... and there is a SINNER in your midst who needs a Saviour... now those women are just using their emotions to Praise God and according to you.. thats in order because this is supposedly GOD making them do this.......

God is in the stillness... Remember the Still Small Voice.. God was not in the thunder and lightning.... He loves to be reverenced.... He's not looking for a Party as much as he is reverence

Doc, this is a hypothetical that you are giving (in which I cannot recall in my years as a Pentecostal that this scenario you've given has actually happened in a way that the sinner would not be able to recieve God's word). I will say that when the gifts of the Spirit are in operation, and when the Holy Ghost is working in a church service, God is the one who is in control. Besides, the sinner that you would be referring to needs to see this in order to know that God's presence is real. Can you describe God's presence when He deals with a congregation? Probably not as effective as God could, thus the sinner needs to be there.

#10 07-18-2008, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

Doc, this is a hypothetical that you are giving (in which I cannot recall in my years as a Pentecostal that this scenario you've given has actually happened in a way that the sinner would not be able to recieve God's word). I will say that when the gifts of the Spirit are in operation, and when the Holy Ghost is working in a church service, God is the one who is in control. Besides, the sinner that you would be referring to needs to see this in order to know that God's presence is real. Can you describe God's presence when He deals with a congregation? Probably not as effective as God could, thus the sinner needs to be there.

Brother.. did you just say the SINNER NEEDS TO SEE THIS MADNESS? Paul say they will think you guys are nuts or mad!!!!