Do you believe in Pentecostal Shouting?

[BrotherEastman]

Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn

Paul actually said she would think you were a bunch of crazy people.. he used the harder word MAD

So, Paul said that the hypothetical woman would think that we were a bunch of crazy people? Really? Where?

Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

Doctor Vaughn, Do you suppose those who were in the upper room were "out of order"? They appeared to be drunk (so, I guess they would've appeared that way); however, they weren't drunk as were supposed, but were loud enough to seam that way because GOD was in control.

Brother Eastman.. I have quoted the scriptures on here MANY times to PROVE EMPHATICALLY that the drunk statement has NOTHING to do with their worship or any of their behavior it had to do with their ability to speak in foreign languages...... and upon hearing this the onlookers said "What causes them to do this" and then others responded "this must be some new wine"

It soooo sad to me that Pentecostal try to make this more than it was..... not ONE MENTION of their PRAISE or WORSHIP....... never one record of anyone shouting or dancing and yet you Pentecostal try to recreate that whole scene to fir your paradigm......

No one was ACTING DRUNK....... these onlookers attributed their ability to break the language barrier as possibly some kind of new wine that no one had heard of... they couldnt think of anything else to attribute it to... it would be like if we heard something happening among a group of people that we could not explain ...... we would say "must be some new drug or something"

Here's a challenge... read the Story of Pentecost and show me ONE SCRIPTURE where they were doing the Pentecostal jerk and roll.... show my anything that compares to that

Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

So, Paul said that the hypothetical woman would think that we were a bunch of crazy people? Really? Where?

Bro. Eastman, surely you are more versed in scripture to not know what I'm referring to.. When Paul was setting the church in order and he then explains to them the reason he is calling for more order in the church...lest a visitor would walk in and think you were MAD or CRAZY

Originally Posted by B_Kendrick

If they are really doing it because they feel the power of God, then EVERYBODY would feel the same power that those ladies felt. But maybe you've never been in a service where the power of God falls on everybody.

Grew up in them... only problem is I dont find ONE REFERENCE in the NT of this ever happening.. the NT is my guide for church order not personal feelings

[BrotherEastman]

Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn

Brother.. did you just say the SINNER NEEDS TO SEE THIS MADNESS? Paul say they will think you guys are nuts or mad!!!!

Doc, are you Pentecostal? If you suggest that I'm mad, you need to show me from scripture that I am. Unless you have experienced the Holy Ghost the way I have, then I'd be careful of how you judge.

[Rico]

Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn

Paul actually said she would think you were a bunch of crazy people.. he used the harder word MAD

MAD. That's how I would describe around 80% of the things I've seen you post. But, to each his own, so.................

[Rico]

Originally Posted by B_Kendrick

If they are really doing it because they feel the power of God, then EVERYBODY would feel the same power that those ladies felt. But maybe you've never been in a service where the power of God falls on everybody.

My question is if he'd even be able to recognize it as such.

[BrotherEastman]

Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn

Brother Eastman.. I have quoted the scriptures on here MANY times to PROVE EMPHATICALLY that the drunk statement has NOTHING to do with their worship or any of their behavior it had to do with their ability to speak in foreign languages...... and upon hearing this the onlookers said "What causes them to do this" and then others responded "this must be some new wine"

It soooo sad to me that Pentecostal try to make this more than it was..... not ONE MENTION of their PRAISE or WORSHIP....... never one record of anyone shouting or dancing and yet you Pentecostal try to recreate that whole scene to fir your paradigm......

No one was ACTING DRUNK....... these onlookers attributed their ability to break the language barrier as possibly some kind of new wine that no one had heard of... they couldnt think of anything else to attribute it to... it would be like if we heard something happening among a group of people that we could not explain ...... we would say "must be some new drug or something"

Here's a challenge... read the Story of Pentecost and show me ONE SCRIPTURE where they were doing the Pentecostal jerk and roll.... show my anything that compares to that

The challenge once again falls upon you because I have experienced what I have experienced, and unless you've been there you will not be able to convince the 81% of us that you are right. I've given you a few scriptures, you have yet to prove your case with any scripture. If we are MAD as you suppose, then show us the error of our ways, if not, drop out of the conversation until you can give us something that is substantial.

[BrotherEastman]

Originally Posted by Rico

MAD. That's how I would describe around 80% of the things I've seen you post. But, to each his own, so.................

The problem lies in the fact that he is trying to use I Corinthians 14 for his argument, but I wonder if he knows he is taking his text out of context. Herein lies the problem, he has an argument, but I have an experience; my experience trumps his argument because he hasn't adequately shown or explained his texts, nor do I think he is capable of doing so.

[stmatthew]

Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn

Brother Eastman.. I have quoted the scriptures on here MANY times to PROVE EMPHATICALLY that the drunk statement has NOTHING to do with their worship or any of their behavior it had to do with their ability to speak in foreign languages...... and upon hearing this the onlookers said "What causes them to do this" and then others responded "this must be some new wine"

It soooo sad to me that Pentecostal try to make this more than it was..... not ONE MENTION of their PRAISE or WORSHIP....... never one record of anyone shouting or dancing and yet you Pentecostal try to recreate that whole scene to fir your paradigm......

No one was ACTING DRUNK....... these onlookers attributed their ability to break the language barrier as possibly some kind of new wine that no one had heard of... they couldnt think of anything else to attribute it to... it would be like if we heard something happening among a group of people that we could not explain ...... we would say "must be some new drug or something"

Here's a challenge... read the Story of Pentecost and show me ONE SCRIPTURE where they were doing the Pentecostal jerk and roll.... show my anything that compares to that

Amazing! You have PROVEN NOTHING. You have only given YOUR OPINION.

I have encountered many Mexicans that speak English as good as I do, and they were never once mistaken for drunk. Have met Chinese folks that spoke their own language around me. I Did not mistake them for drunk. But I did grow up in a church that was in the city of Tamp where many times a drunk would come into the service to find a back seat he could sit down in. There was no mistaken that they were drunk, as they staggered in.

So I would suggest that your interpretation is not correct, as there is not any reason for anyone to believe that someone that either spoke my language, or spoke their native tongue, would be mistaken for drunk or intoxicated. Your reasoning is unreasonable. You are simply fooling yourself if you think there is any logic to your argument.