very well said, sir.
So many libs have made it seemed like the cons left because they couldn't handle their beliefs being challenged. Nonsense.
My impression has always been that most left simply because they were tired of the endless assaults and insults against beliefs they valued dearly. in my view, it wasn't the disagreement with their convictions, but rather the mockery of those convictions , that made them fed up and decide to leave.
Come on, Ron. I've been around here quite a long time and have seen lots of things written on this forum, but I have yet to see anyone condemn the conservatives to hell for what they believe, however, I've seen conservatives condemn others to hell for NOT believing as they believe.
To me, there's nothing worse than that, yet I don't see those being condemned leaving in droves, but rather, they continue writing about what they believe and why, regardless.
Why can't the conservatives do that?
I was conservative once. I spoke about my beliefs and stood up for them, regardless of how others felt. I didn't degrade anyone, even when I told them I disagreed. They far outnumbered me but I never did leave for that reason. In fact, I'm friends still today with some I met on that forum many years ago...even some I still disagree with.
The problem isn't the discussion, but the personal issues...and I've seen that come from both sides here. I don't feel it's been more one side than the other. Both have played equally in the blame.
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Come on, Ron. I've been around here quite a long time and have seen lots of things written on this forum, but I have yet to see anyone condemn the conservatives to hell for what they believe, however, I've seen conservatives condemn others to hell for NOT believing as they believe.
To me, there's nothing worse than that, yet I don't see those being condemned leaving in droves, but rather, they continue writing about what they believe and why, regardless.
Why can't the conservatives do that?
I was conservative once. I spoke about my beliefs and stood up for them, regardless of how others felt. I didn't degrade anyone, even when I told them I disagreed. They far outnumbered me but I never did leave for that reason. In fact, I'm friends still today with some I met on that forum many years ago...even some I still disagree with.
The problem isn't the discussion, but the personal issues...and I've seen that come from both sides here. I don't feel it's been more one side than the other. Both have played equally in the blame.
HO, the thing is, we are in the same trap.
Well, they did this, or they deserve this, or they are that.
It seems there is justification in your post.
Turn about is fair play?
The question is asked, where are the Conservatives, & why aren't they posting?
There have been things posted from Conservatives in a bad attitude at times-sure.
I have done it.
Does that make anything I, or anyone else has said on this thread, null & void?
HO, the thing is, we are in the same trap.
Well, they did this, or they deserve this, or they are that.
It seems there is justification in your post.
Turn about is fair play?
The question is asked, where are the Conservatives, & why aren't they posting?
There have been things posted from Conservatives in a bad attitude at times-sure.
I have done it.
Does that make anything I, or anyone else has said on this thread, null & void?
I was responding to the logic about why conservatives are leaving when, from my POV, they have done the same or worse to others (to me, nothing is worse than condemning someone to hell because they don't believe as you do), yet those others continue to stick around. Makes one wonder what the real reasons are, that's all.
It has nothing to do with justification or turn about. I was around FCF in the olden days. Jim had a way of getting people, especially conservatives, to think. Some of them didn't like it then either.
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I was responding to the logic about why conservatives are leaving when, from my POV, they have done the same or worse to others (to me, nothing is worse than condemning someone to hell because they don't believe as you do), yet those others continue to stick around. Makes one wonder what the real reasons are, that's all.
It has nothing to do with justification or turn about. I was around FCF in the olden days. Jim had a way of getting people, especially conservatives, to think. Some of them didn't like it then either.
Some of us actually believe what we preach I certainly have NO desire to condemn someone to hell, however if the message I believe and teach is correct then yes the rejection of that message will condemn some to Hell. Do I rejoice? Most certainly not! However Jesus is NOT Santa Claus where you are gonna get your gifts regardless of your behaviour. Folks are gonna be lost for rejecting the Apostolic message and not adhering to Apostolic teaching.
If that make me judgmental in your eyes then I guess I am. I do NOT believe ONE person from Pentecost until now is saved outside of obeying Acts 2:38. I believe Trinitarians preach another Jesus than the one the Apostles preached.
I do believe the Word of God governs our lifestyle including appearance and entertainment. I believe to reject those Biblical edicts a person will be lost unless they repent. So there it is I have to go to church have at it.
Some of us actually believe what we preach I certainly have NO desire to condemn someone to hell, however if the message I believe and teach is correct then yes the rejection of that message will condemn some to Hell. Do I rejoice? Most certainly not! However Jesus is NOT Santa Claus where you are gonna get your gifts regardless of your behaviour. Folks are gonna be lost for rejecting the Apostolic message and not adhering to Apostolic teaching.
If that make me judgmental in your eyes then I guess I am. I do NOT believe ONE person from Pentecost until now is saved outside of obeying Acts 2:38. I believe Trinitarians preach another Jesus than the one the Apostles preached.
I do believe the Word of God governs our lifestyle including appearance and entertainment. I believe to reject those Biblical edicts a person will be lost unless they repent. So there it is I have to go to church have at it.
Some of us actually believe what we preach I certainly have NO desire to condemn someone to hell, however if the message I believe and teach is correct then yes the rejection of that message will condemn some to Hell. Do I rejoice? Most certainly not! However Jesus is NOT Santa Claus where you are gonna get your gifts regardless of your behaviour. Folks are gonna be lost for rejecting the Apostolic message and not adhering to Apostolic teaching.
If that make me judgmental in your eyes then I guess I am. I do NOT believe ONE person from Pentecost until now is saved outside of obeying Acts 2:38. I believe Trinitarians preach another Jesus than the one the Apostles preached.
I do believe the Word of God governs our lifestyle including appearance and entertainment. I believe to reject those Biblical edicts a person will be lost unless they repent. So there it is I have to go to church have at it.
Some of us actually believe what we preach I certainly have NO desire to condemn someone to hell, however if the message I believe and teach is correct then yes the rejection of that message will condemn some to Hell. Do I rejoice? Most certainly not! However Jesus is NOT Santa Claus where you are gonna get your gifts regardless of your behaviour. Folks are gonna be lost for rejecting the Apostolic message and not adhering to Apostolic teaching.
If that make me judgmental in your eyes then I guess I am. I do NOT believe ONE person from Pentecost until now is saved outside of obeying Acts 2:38. I believe Trinitarians preach another Jesus than the one the Apostles preached.
I do believe the Word of God governs our lifestyle including appearance and entertainment. I believe to reject those Biblical edicts a person will be lost unless they repent. So there it is I have to go to church have at it.
There is a big difference in what you say above and what others have said. Even though I disagree with some things you believe, I know you believe them and why, and that I'd never hold against you. I think we should all make a stand for something or we'll fall for anything.
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