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Old 07-26-2008, 09:53 PM
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Well let's at least be honest. Trinitarian doctrine says there is one God in number but three in person. They do believe they are monotheists
Hello?

What does the prefix tri mean?

lol

Their own labels betray them.
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Hello?

What does the prefix tri mean?

lol

Their own labels betray them.
three persons. Duh I just told you the doctrine of the Trinity says there is one God in number that is three in PERSON
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three persons. Duh I just told you the doctrine of the Trinity says there is one God in number that is three in PERSON

Prax,

I am sure you know that the trinitarian doctrine falls apart when you look at it closely.

One God

3 persons

All Co-equal

all co-eternal




Sorry, but they can say One God all day, but they split that One God into 3 persons, and make them co-eternal. They say co-equal, but then you have Jesus Praying to God the Father, and the Holy Ghost testifying of God the Son. They have a carnal understanding at best of what the bible says. The difference between Oneness and trinity is Revelation, and that happens when folks let the holy ghost lead them into all truth.
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Old 07-26-2008, 10:09 PM
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Prax,

I am sure you know that the trinitarian doctrine falls apart when you look at it closely.

One God

3 persons

All Co-equal

all co-eternal




Sorry, but they can say One God all day, but they split that One God into 3 persons, and make them co-eternal. They say co-equal, but then you have Jesus Praying to God the Father, and the Holy Ghost testifying of God the Son. They have a carnal understanding at best of what the bible says. The difference between Oneness and trinity is Revelation, and that happens when folks let the holy ghost lead them into all truth.
Im sure you just read me saying what THEY say they believe? Did you? Did PP? Let me recap. Trinitarian DOCTRINE states explicitly that they believe in ONE God in number and three in person. THEY state they are monotheists. I am honest and my point to PP is let's at least be honest here. They do not say they believe in three Gods, they say they believe in One God in number, sorry but they really do say that.

Whether or not we can prove that their belief does not make sense and ultimately is polytheistic is a totally different issue than what I just posted
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Old 07-26-2008, 10:13 PM
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Im sure you just read me saying what THEY say they believe? Did you? Did PP? Let me recap. Trinitarian DOCTRINE states explicitly that they believe in ONE God in number and three in person. THEY state they are monotheists. I am honest and my point to PP is let's at least be honest here. They do not say they believe in three Gods, they say they believe in One God in number, sorry but they really do say that.

Whether or not we can prove that their belief does not make sense and ultimately is polytheistic is a totally different issue than what I just posted

Is there a reason for the hostility in your post??
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Is there a reason for the hostility in your post??
If I was hostile I'd call you an idiot or something else lol. Im simply pointing out neither you nor PP really read my post as it was intended. You both seem to think Im saying they are monotheists when I simply am pointing out what their doctrine actually states.
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Sorry Bill that is not true. Because if you had elders you would have to consider their council. You don't listen to anyone or anything. No one can tell you anything. You do as you very well please.

Bill has both elders and mentors, not despots.

And he considers me one of them.

I know both he and his pastor.


Bro Price has come a long way, and like all of us has a long way to go.

And is willing to admit he is learning, growing and progressing even if it opens him to ridicule by "elders" and those in Administrative positions who should know better.
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If I was hostile I'd call you an idiot or something else lol. Im simply pointing out neither you nor PP really read my post as it was intended. You both seem to think Im saying they are monotheists when I simply am pointing out what their doctrine actually states.
I read it.

You were wrong.

But I still love you.

Their doctrine is tri-theism.
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If I was hostile I'd call you an idiot or something else lol. Im simply pointing out neither you nor PP really read my post as it was intended. You both seem to think Im saying they are monotheists when I simply am pointing out what their doctrine actually states.

Well, If you had read my reply as it was intended, you would have saw that i did not even bring you into the equation. I stated that THEY can say (believe) all they want, Not that YOU can say....
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Im sure you just read me saying what THEY say they believe? Did you? Did PP? Let me recap. Trinitarian DOCTRINE states explicitly that they believe in ONE God in number and three in person. THEY state they are monotheists. I am honest and my point to PP is let's at least be honest here. They do not say they believe in three Gods, they say they believe in One God in number, sorry but they really do say that.

Whether or not we can prove that their belief does not make sense and ultimately is polytheistic is a totally different issue than what I just posted
Prax, we know what they say but what does their doctrine amount to? A God with three personalities!

If we knew a human being with three personalities what is our first response? ...........something is drastically wrong!!!!! and consider that we are created in His image. So why wouldn't we consider that something is drastically wrong with a view of the one true and living God having three personalities? Sure it doesn't fit the definition of polytheism, because their doctrine is honed and polished to look like one God but with three "egos".
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