9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
KJV
What does this have to do with old time Pentecost? We all believe sinners won't be in heaven....except Crakjac
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There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
Every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
Nice start, but can you bring it full circle and apply what you said to the contemporary church?
Those of us who went to public school need you to carry this thought further so we are crystal clear on what you mean...
Sorry, I think I jumped in to a discussion and responded to a message without reading the context. I made an assumption and I guess I should of clarified what was meant by "distorted views".
My apologies.
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Jer 6:16 Thus saith the LORD, Stand ye in the ways, and see, and ask for the old paths, where is the good way, and walk therein, and ye shall find rest for your souls...
Sorry, I think I jumped in to a discussion and responded to a message without reading the context. I made an assumption and I guess I should of clarified what was meant by "distorted views".
Don't insult our intelligence and call what you believe it old time pentecost, when most of isn't scriptural let alone pentecost. The idolatry of legalism took hold in the mid 1900's and hasn't released its death grip yet. Old time pentecost is an euphamism for a mid twentieth centurty unbiblical mindset.
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Why is it odd to you that the status of 50-60 years as a time frame seems to fit us. I am only 57 that is as far as I can reference. Maybe a modern Methuselah will post and you can ask him about 500 years ago. Good Grief!
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A religious spirit allows people to tolerate hatred and anger under the guise of passion and holiness. Bill Johnson
Legalism has no pity on people. Legalism makes my opinion your burden, makes opinion your boundary, makes my opinion your obligation-Lucado
Some get spiritual because they see the light. Others because they feel the heat.Ray Wylie Hubbard
Definition of legalism- Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. TV
I'm reminded of a scripture that is often taken out of context about removing old landmarks. That is used inappropriately to take a stab at a more moderate to liberal mindset on non- salvational issues. If the mods and libs are not supposed to move the landmarks, who in the blazing saddles gave the cons the right to the landmarks the other direction. I don't see scripture allowing one side to move landmarks and the other side no permitted to remove landmarks.
The landmarks were moved by a conservative faction with devestating results. The church feels the effects of legalism even today.
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Originally Posted by Rico
I think the point he was trying to make is that what you consider "old time" would hardly qualify as such, seeing as how we are only talking about just over a generation. Jesus name baptism counts as old paths. Repentance counts as old paths. Holy Ghost infilling with tongue talking counts as old paths. Dressing the way you do doesn't count as old paths. At best, it's a generational mindset and subject to change.
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A religious spirit allows people to tolerate hatred and anger under the guise of passion and holiness. Bill Johnson
Legalism has no pity on people. Legalism makes my opinion your burden, makes opinion your boundary, makes my opinion your obligation-Lucado
Some get spiritual because they see the light. Others because they feel the heat.Ray Wylie Hubbard
Definition of legalism- Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. TV