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Old 09-05-2008, 11:48 AM
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Re: New Doctrine Emerges: NOT Forgiven at Repentan

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Daniel...I dont' see where Bernard is contradicting himself. You're reading a lot into what he's saying that he's not saying.
He's not contradicting himself, Aquila ... He's contradicting an article of faith in his own organization.
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Old 09-05-2008, 11:50 AM
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Re: New Doctrine Emerges: NOT Forgiven at Repentan

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He's not contradicting himself, Aquila ... He's contradicting an article of faith in his own organization.
The Articles of Faith....get real dude....it's not a creed. It's just a very general overview of accepted concepts in our fellowship. Some will put more emphasis on various concepts than others. You need to relax.
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Old 09-05-2008, 11:52 AM
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The Articles of Faith....get real dude....it's not a creed. It's just a very general overview of accepted concepts in our fellowship. Some will put more emphasis on various concepts than others. You need to relax.
Various articles in the AOF ... are to be affirmed every 2 years... the one on Fundamental doctrine ... which grammatically attributes remission only to water baptism (which Bernard disagrees w/ also) and holiness ....

So for most ministers ... the AOF ... at least part of it ... is a big deal ... see the last 15 years of UPCI history.

Just stating a fact ... Bernard does not agree with the article of faith in the UPCI on repentance.

He does not espouse this generally accepted concept among his peers on a basic New Birth "component".
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