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09-07-2008, 02:09 PM
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Re: Sarah Palin, Todd Bentley, and Dominion Theolo
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Originally Posted by TK Burk
There you go kind readers; jaxfam just demonstrated why the Apostolic Church is falling, brick by brick. Once you go down the road he's advocating, once you remove the importance of following God's Word, once you allow your God to do or be anything "He desires" regardless how opposite the behavior may be to His Word, then you've opened up a huge door that leads to every false teaching and teacher this world offers.
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31 Flavors is that what these guys want? Their own personal Jesus?
Their own beliefs marinated in Kabbalist philosophy and not one Bible scripture to defend their doctrine? I guess Sarah Palin and John McCain are the two witnesses of Rev 11?
In Jesus name
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09-07-2008, 03:52 PM
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Re: Sarah Palin, Todd Bentley, and Dominion Theolo
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Originally Posted by jaxfam6
Where in the top did you mention Jesus approval? You asked If I cared that Jesus nor the apostles mentioned anything about killing other people to take their land
My response was no I do not care that they did not mention it in the Bible.
And you can't understand why I questioned you as I did?
What is wrong with me saying I do not care that it is not mentioned? Do have scripture and verse that states that there will be no blood shed, no killing to take back their land?
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Now you are implying that I do not care if Jesus approves of things. Hmmm LONG STRETCH don't you think?
Not at all. If you can’t figure why I said this, then you need to reread what you first said...
I suppose that in your little boxed in world view of things you would not find it a stretch.
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Here is my opinion and it has been for some time. Democrats are not going to do what needs to be done for things to work out as needed in the middle east. If she believes this "theology" that you speak of and it scares you then maybe you are not ready for things to start to come to a head. I say if she is the one that is needed and if that way of thinking is needed to get things ready for the bride to be raptured out of here then more power to her and to dominion theology. I look forward to the day when we are taken from this world to be with Him forever.
I have said for years that it will take a Republican with a STRONG church back ground to do what needs to be done for things to fall into place.
Go ahead accuse me of dominion theology. Never heard of it before now and don't really care. I still believe that God can come back for his bride at any time but if I follow the scriptures it sure looks to me like a few things need to take place in the middle east for the anti-Christ to step onto the scene. If it takes an AoG raised trinity pentecostal girl to get it accomplished then let go Sarah. Get it done so we can be taken out of here.
Even so, come, Lord Jesus
My questioning about you not caring came from me saying the Bible never says killing people and taking their land must occur before any future coming of Jesus Christ can happen. All over your post you said that this did not matter to you. That, my friend, is scary!
Where in my post does it say that killing is okay? My post was saying that I do not care what means God takes to accomplish what he needs to accomplish to set the stage for the anti-Christ to step on the scene and bring peace to the world. If it takes this 'theology' that you seem have a problem with, which I have never heard of till you brought it up, and still do not care about, to bring it all about so be it. GOD CAN USE WHOMEVER HE WANTS.
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You seem very worried over things in the middle east being brought to a head so that the bride can be taken out of this world.
I know you said you don't care if Jesus or his apostles said anything about this, but you keep tying these two together by claiming it is biblical. Now how can it be biblical, and you not caring whether or not it is in the Bible??
Another thing, if you do claim it is biblical, can you give the book, chapter, and verse where it's found? I can't find anything like you're proposing, can you?
I have tied nothing together. You want to say that the Bible doesn't say they will kill others to take back land but you seem to not be producing scripture that says they will not have to either. It does not take a genius to understand that the middle east is not yet to a boiling point that will allow for the anti-Christ to step on the scene and EVERY NATION accept him. The nations do not seem to be tired enough of the terrorist there that run things with the backing of their religion. You want them to finally be tired of it get them fighting with each other more and more. It may not even take Israel to step up and show force. If they just get the countries really fighting with each other. Who can do that? If israel steps up they will all gang up on Israel but let another country that backs Israel keep doing what it is currently doing and getting into EVERYONES business and get Iran against Iraq and other middle east countries involved and that will be enough. You get them fighting among themselves more and they will start getting tired of it as well as the rest of the world. THEN YOU HAVE A STAGE THAT WILL BE RIPE FOR THE PICKING.
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Do you love this world more than you love God? I would hope not.
Now who's stretching what? So, I'm the bad guy because I want Bible?
Why is my question stretching it? Are you the bad guy? Who accused you of not wanting the Bible? You can have the Bible and there can still be a need for killing over there. You do not have scripture to say there will not be.
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You see just cause it is not written in the Bible does not mean that it can not be used to bring things about.
There you go. So you adhere to "New Word" doctrine.
Where did Jesus ever say He would do anything beyond what is written in the Bible?
Why are you afraid of Him doing something that is not written in the word? Just because He did not say that Israel will not have to kill to take back land does not mean that it will not have to happen either. Did God say that America would fight the Revolutionary war or the Civil war or any other war for that matter? The Bible does say that there would be wars and rumors of wars. That is all it takes, any nation, any people.
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God can do what ever He wants.
No He can't. He cannot go against His Word.
Yes my friend He can. He can do whatever He wants. He is GOD after all.
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He can use who ever He wants. I do not care how it happens I just want to go out of this world and start living eternally with Him. God use what ever means you need to use to get it accomplished.
There you go kind readers; jaxfam just demonstrated why the Apostolic Church is falling, brick by brick. Once you go down the road he's advocating, once you remove the importance of following God's Word, once you allow your God to do or be anything "He desires" regardless how opposite the behavior may be to His Word, then you've opened up a huge door that leads to every false teaching and teacher this world offers.
There you go folks I am the main cause of the fall of the Apostolic church. Me and me alone. I have encouraged you all to stop following the Bible. (please if anyone can find where I did that show me)
God help those that are afraid to think outside the BOX.
Stop their funeral and raise them up. Place life back into them. Place some wisdom and into their boxed up minds and help them get out of their own little world.
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09-07-2008, 04:15 PM
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Re: Sarah Palin, Todd Bentley, and Dominion Theolo
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God can do what ever He wants.
No He can't. He cannot go against His Word.
Yes my friend He can. He can do whatever He wants. He is GOD after all.
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Actually, you both are incorrect. To say He cannot go against His word is nonsensical since He is all knowing and would never say anything that is against His plan.
Also, to suggest that He could go against His own decreed word would make Him out a liar and is against His character. His word is forever fixed. If He knows something will come to pass it will.
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09-07-2008, 06:11 PM
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Re: Sarah Palin, Todd Bentley, and Dominion Theolo
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Actually, you both are incorrect. To say He cannot go against His word is nonsensical since He is all knowing and would never say anything that is against His plan.
Also, to suggest that He could go against His own decreed word would make Him out a liar and is against His character. His word is forever fixed. If He knows something will come to pass it will.
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RD, do you study the vadic writings?
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09-07-2008, 06:58 PM
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Re: Sarah Palin, Todd Bentley, and Dominion Theolo
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RD, do you study the vadic writings?
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Elder, the way you can say so much with so little would make Ernest Hemingway proud!
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09-07-2008, 07:11 PM
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Re: Sarah Palin, Todd Bentley, and Dominion Theolo
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Elder, the way you can say so much with so little would make Ernest Hemingway proud!
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And he commits intellectual suicide every once in a while.
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09-07-2008, 09:04 PM
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Re: Sarah Palin, Todd Bentley, and Dominion Theolo
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And he commits intellectual suicide every once in a while.
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Jealous
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09-07-2008, 04:38 PM
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Re: Sarah Palin, Todd Bentley, and Dominion Theolo
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
31 Flavors is that what these guys want? Their own personal Jesus?
Their own beliefs marinated in Kabbalist philosophy and not one Bible scripture to defend their doctrine? I guess Sarah Palin and John McCain are the two witnesses of Rev 11?
In Jesus name
Brother Benincasa
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Sarah Palin and John McCain the two witnesses??? No that cant possibly be! Irvin Baxter already claims dibs on being one of them, and may also have someone else in mind for the other.
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09-07-2008, 04:44 PM
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Re: Sarah Palin, Todd Bentley, and Dominion Theolo
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Sarah Palin and John McCain the two witnesses??? No that cant possibly be! Irvin Baxter already claims dibs on being one of them, and may also have someone else in mind for the other.
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You are kidding - right?
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09-07-2008, 06:10 PM
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Re: Sarah Palin, Todd Bentley, and Dominion Theolo
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You are kidding - right?
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TCSQ never kids around. Stone Cold seriousness in every typed vowel.
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