Like I posted earlier, bible speaks in genereal terms, but do feel specific things fall under those terms.
Kinda like there's no specific scripture against shooting up heroin or smoking dope. The bible not going to say everything.
Bible teaches that if we we should discern good and evil. If everything is spelled out in chapter and verse, why need discernment?
This is a cop out, in my opinion.
We claim to speak when the BIble speaks, and be silent when the Bible is silent, but really, that's not the case.
We excuse our traditions and preferences, even if there is no scripture to back them up, with this broad statement.
We say, "We speak in tongues, because that's how the apostles did it!"
And, "We baptize in JEsus' name because that's how the apostles did it!"
But, when I ask if there is scriptural precedent for people simulating sexual acts when demons are cast out, you say "The Bible only speaks in general terms"? Copout, no offense intended.
THe BIble is extremely specific about what is sin, and what is not sin.
And the fact that it's silent on these issues that we are discussing is the only point I"m trying to make.
We can't make sin what the Bible doesn't make sin.
__________________ "Many people view their relationship with God like a "color by number" picture. It's easier to let someone else define the boundaries, tell them which blanks to fill in, and what color to use than it is for them to take a blank canvas and seek inspiration from the Source in order to paint their own masterpiece"
We claim to speak when the BIble speaks, and be silent when the Bible is silent, but really, that's not the case.
We excuse our traditions and preferences, even if there is no scripture to back them up, with this broad statement.
We say, "We speak in tongues, because that's how the apostles did it!"
And, "We baptize in JEsus' name because that's how the apostles did it!"
But, when I ask if there is scriptural precedent for people simulating sexual acts when demons are cast out, you say "The Bible only speaks in general terms"? Copout, no offense intended.
THe BIble is extremely specific about what is sin, and what is not sin.
And the fact that it's silent on these issues that we are discussing is the only point I"m trying to make.
We can't make sin what the Bible doesn't make sin.
Anwer this for me:
Is smoking a little dope sin?
Is going to casinos gambling sin?
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Today pull up the little weeds,
The sinful thoughts subdue,
Or they will take the reins themselves
And someday master you. --Anon.
The most deadly sins do not leap upon us, they creep up on us.
I'll ask you the question - can you show me scripture to back up the fact that these activities are sins?
You are making the assertion that they ARE, unless I miss my guess, so please provide scripture to back up your position.
__________________ "Many people view their relationship with God like a "color by number" picture. It's easier to let someone else define the boundaries, tell them which blanks to fill in, and what color to use than it is for them to take a blank canvas and seek inspiration from the Source in order to paint their own masterpiece"
__________________ "Many people view their relationship with God like a "color by number" picture. It's easier to let someone else define the boundaries, tell them which blanks to fill in, and what color to use than it is for them to take a blank canvas and seek inspiration from the Source in order to paint their own masterpiece"
Rob 3:10 "thou shall not shoot heroin up your vein"
Happy now?
That would be one of the things I listed that are not in scripture. So would be ok for us to have a little heroin fellowship?
If was at a brothers house and he was shootin it up, would you say It's ok brother it's not in scripture?
I appreciate your honesty in stating that it's found in Rob 3:10, lol!
See, here's the difference in bad habits and sin.
All the things we don't agree with we like to make "sin", and then we realize we really don't have scriptural authority to make it sin. But, its hard to admit that, so soon we're saying "Tattoos are sin, smoking is a sin, drinking a beer is a sin, gambling is a sin, watching TV is a sin, blah blah blah".
I have no problem saying that those things are bad habits and not conducive to a CHristian walk, but the burden of proof is on YOU at this point to show me scripturally where these things have been identified as sin.
I'll give you a headstart - go check out Galatians and you'll find a great list to start with.
Paul said "All things are lawful, but not all things are expedient".
Some things are bad habits, but you can't show me that they are "sin".
Semantics, you say? I don't think so - I call it scriptural integrity.
__________________ "Many people view their relationship with God like a "color by number" picture. It's easier to let someone else define the boundaries, tell them which blanks to fill in, and what color to use than it is for them to take a blank canvas and seek inspiration from the Source in order to paint their own masterpiece"
Is doing heroin sin? yes or no
Hybrid Mode
