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Old 11-17-2008, 02:21 PM
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Re: Jews Against Zionism

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and I dont agree at all. Nothing there says that Israel has to be set up with as some kind of religious nation based upon an overtly religious set of laws.

God said he would gather and turn their hearts to him.

I know more than the average person about the history here. How Israel becamse a nation is well within the relm of the Miraculous. You have to ignor quite a bit to suggest that God had no hand here.

Why did those early Jews succeed when they were out manned and out gunned?

how did they survive the 6 day war when they were out classed in every way?


I could go on. I will stop there. I dont agree with you AT ALL that Israel as it is currently constituted, isnt by Gods will. I dont know that and neither do you.

And at the end of the day, I still suspect that your goal here is that we step back from support of Israel as a nation entirely. That really bothers me.
Ferd, many times I have been out of God's will, but not once was I out of his care!

That is the issue!

God's will. That doesn't mean he will let Israel get squished by it's enemies no different than God isn't allowing the US or Canada become vaporised because we allow gay marriage & abort babies.

I think also Bro Blume is saying & correct me if I am wrong, that we don't need to support Israel for religious purposes, but for practical or humanitarian purposes much the same that US supports Canada!

Am I right?
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Ferd, many times I have been out of God's will, but not once was I out of his care!

That is the issue!

God's will. That doesn't mean he will let Israel get squished by it's enemies no different than God isn't allowing the US or Canada become vaporised because we allow gay marriage & abort babies.

I think also Bro Blume is saying & correct me if I am wrong, that we don't need to support Israel for religious purposes, but for practical or humanitarian purposes much the same that US supports Canada!

Am I right?
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