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12-05-2008, 03:55 PM
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Re: Educated Less Likely to Divorce than Evangelic
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This may be true now, but I don't think it was when I was growing up. Or it was well hidden if it was.
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I'm reminded of once when my grandpa tried to claim that illicit sex, marital affairs, teenage sex, divorce, etc...'just didn't happen when i was growing up' and tried to act like the world was going to hell in a handbasket today. My grandma started laughing outloud and laughed until she cried.She said, "Doc, are you smokin' crack? All that was going on when we were growing up! It was just hidden and not talked about. Get real!". hahaha!
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12-05-2008, 04:04 PM
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Re: Educated Less Likely to Divorce than Evangelic
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I'm reminded of once when my grandpa tried to claim that illicit sex, marital affairs, teenage sex, divorce, etc...'just didn't happen when i was growing up' and tried to act like the world was going to hell in a handbasket today. My grandma started laughing outloud and laughed until she cried.She said, "Doc, are you smokin' crack? All that was going on when we were growing up! It was just hidden and not talked about. Get real!". hahaha!
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I think they really tried to hide things like that from children then. I was not implying it didn't happen, just that I didn't know about it when I was a kid.
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12-05-2008, 04:10 PM
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Re: Educated Less Likely to Divorce than Evangelic
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I think they really tried to hide things like that from children then. I was not implying it didn't happen, just that I didn't know about it when I was a kid.
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Oh, I know. I wasn't digging ya. Just tellin' a funny story that you reminded me of.
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12-05-2008, 04:12 PM
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Re: Educated Less Likely to Divorce than Evangelic
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Oh, I know. I wasn't digging ya. Just tellin' a funny story that you reminded me of.
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It is a funny story.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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12-05-2008, 04:21 PM
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Re: Educated Less Likely to Divorce than Evangelic
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I'm reminded of once when my grandpa tried to claim that illicit sex, marital affairs, teenage sex, divorce, etc...'just didn't happen when i was growing up' and tried to act like the world was going to hell in a handbasket today. My grandma started laughing outloud and laughed until she cried.She said, "Doc, are you smokin' crack? All that was going on when we were growing up! It was just hidden and not talked about. Get real!". hahaha!
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Yeah, my parents tried to convince me of that too. Of course, they grew up in the 50's; so I imagine that, while it was still prevalent, it just wasn't talked about - particularly with children.
My perception is that it is common - and part of church culture - for young people in the church to get married much younger than what would be considered average in society. I think is due to sexual pressure - whether it is admitted or not. I am not surprised by these statistics.
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12-05-2008, 04:28 PM
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Re: Educated Less Likely to Divorce than Evangelic
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Yeah, my parents tried to convince me of that too. Of course, they grew up in the 50's; so I imagine that, while it was still prevalent, it just wasn't talked about - particularly with children.
My perception is that it is common - and part of church culture - for young people in the church to get married much younger than what would be considered average in society. I think is due to sexual pressure - whether it is admitted or not. I am not surprised by these statistics.
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There's something to be said for the sexual pressure. I agree with that to a large degree. Imo, the constant focus on sexual issues in holiness churches serves more to exacerbate the sexual pressure than to abate it, and thus produces many unintended and undesirable results in the behavior of the people. The attention to sexual issues is fuel instead of water on the flames of passion, imo.
It's kind of like TV, when the preacher preaches against it every week you tend to want to get one. Then when you do you go hog wild for awhile and then after awhile most people I know tend to not watch it much.
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12-05-2008, 04:35 PM
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Re: Educated Less Likely to Divorce than Evangelic
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There's something to be said for the sexual pressure. I agree with that to a large degree. Imo, the constant focus on sexual issues in holiness churches serves more to exacerbate the sexual pressure than to abate it, and thus produces many unintended and undesirable results in the behavior of the people. The attention to sexual issues is fuel instead of water on the flames of passion, imo.
It's kind of like TV, when the preacher preaches against it every week you tend to want to get one. Then when you do you go hog wild for awhile and then after awhile most people I know tend to not watch it much.
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I have two young people in my house. What is the answer do you think?
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12-05-2008, 04:43 PM
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Re: Educated Less Likely to Divorce than Evangelic
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I have two young people in my house. What is the answer do you think?
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Well, I'm no James Dobson...but with my boys I've tried to be very open about sexual issues from the start and not shy away from them. I figure if I'm open and frank and put it in its proper perspective then it won't be the mysterious unknown when the hormones kick in. I had the birds and bees and adam and steve talk w/my oldest son when he was 7(?) as soon as I found out he'd seen some questionable pictures at a neighbors kid's. I answer any questions he has from time to time w/out getting nervous or act like it's a taboo subject. I don't oversexualize them, I just don't avoid it and treat the subject as if it's something that's all that sensitive. Hopefully when the hormones kick in and he's faced with sexuality in his peer group he'll have a more well rounded, more informed and balanced understanding of sex and sexuality. I kinda wonder if we try to be hush hush about it and/or focus on it too much that we give it too much power and influence in our thinking. Kinda like talking about the devil too much instills fear in people. So far I think his view of sex is pretty mature and well balanced.
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12-05-2008, 04:45 PM
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Re: Educated Less Likely to Divorce than Evangelic
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Well, I'm no James Dobson...but with my boys I've tried to be very open about sexual issues from the start and not shy away from them. I figure if I'm open and frank and put it in its proper perspective then it won't be the mysterious unknown when the hormones kick in. I had the birds and bees and adam and steve talk w/my oldest son when he was 7(?) as soon as I found out he'd seen some questionable pictures at a neighbors kid's. I answer any questions he has from time to time w/out getting nervous or act like it's a taboo subject. I don't oversexualize them, I just don't avoid it and treat the subject as if it's something that's all that sensitive. Hopefully when the hormones kick in and he's faced with sexuality in his peer group he'll have a more well rounded, more informed and balanced understanding of sex and sexuality. I kinda wonder if we try to be hush hush about it and/or focus on it too much that we give it too much power and influence in our thinking. Kinda like talking about the devil too much instills fear in people. So far I think his view of sex is pretty mature and well balanced.
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I commend you, PoMo, I've done the same thing with my three sons.
I could never even mention sex to my parents without being rushed to the altar to repent!
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12-05-2008, 04:52 PM
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Re: Educated Less Likely to Divorce than Evangelic
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I commend you, PoMo, I've done the same thing with my three sons.
I could never even mention sex to my parents without being rushed to the altar to repent!
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Have you seen good results in your boys by taking this approach? It's a new approach for me, my parents pretty much a 'don't ask, don't tell' approach to it.
Ironically, in my experience, the holiness churches I grew up in were much more sexually charged than my 'worldly' and evangelical experience as an adult. And if you're a man reading this then you know it's not merely a stage of life or hormonal thing. Know what I mean? 
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