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Old 04-05-2007, 01:10 PM
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it's not: Obey Them that Rule???

it's: Obey them which have the rule over you

Heb 13:17 Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.

Another way of saying: Have confidence in those that are in leadership in your life and surrender yourself to their leadership because of your confidence and trust in those leaders.

Obedience w/o confidence is of little value.
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Old 04-05-2007, 01:38 PM
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it's not: Obey Them that Rule???

it's: Obey them which have the rule over you

Heb 13:17 Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.

Another way of saying: Have confidence in those that are in leadership in your life and surrender yourself to their leadership because of your confidence and trust in those leaders.

Obedience w/o confidence is of little value.
just wanted to make sure everyone saw this.
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Old 04-05-2007, 01:52 PM
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it's not: Obey Them that Rule???

it's: Obey them which have the rule over you

Heb 13:17 Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.

Another way of saying: Have confidence in those that are in leadership in your life and surrender yourself to their leadership because of your confidence and trust in those leaders.

Obedience w/o confidence is of little value.
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Old 04-05-2007, 01:57 PM
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How many people do you think went down the tube with Demas?
He walked with Paul, you know.

Anything substantive to add???

Besides "amening" the status quo?
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Old 04-05-2007, 02:00 PM
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How many people do you think went down the tube with Demas?
He walked with Paul, you know.

Anything substantive to add???

Besides "amening" the status quo?
If the "status quo" and "truth" agree, an "amen" is in order and supports that which is already substantive.
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Old 04-05-2007, 02:06 PM
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If the "status quo" and "truth" agree, an "amen" is in order and supports that which is already substantive.
It looks like we were saying the same thing at the same time.
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Old 04-05-2007, 02:07 PM
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It looks like we were saying the same thing at the same time.
Great minds....
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If the "status quo" and "truth" agree, an "amen" is in order and supports that which is already substantive.
OK sis, look at the current landscape and tell me with a straight face that the status quo in todays' religiosity (UPC included) and the truth of the NT church agree.


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OK sis, look at the current landscape and tell me with a straight face that the status quo in todays' religiosity (UPC included) and the truth of the NT church agree.


See post 185.

I didn't say your point wasn't a valid one. But you might try springing it off a different post....LOL...basically Actaeon just quoted scripture and rephrased it.
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Old 04-05-2007, 02:12 PM
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See post 185.

I didn't say your point wasn't a valid one. But you might try springing it off a different post....LOL...basically Actaeon just quoted scripture and rephrased it.
Is Actaeon Whole Hearted?

That is the post I repsonded to.
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