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12-29-2008, 02:09 PM
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Re: TRANSRIPT Of Message By HANEY!!!!!!!!!!!!
Churches are suppose to be sacred places, spiritual centers that we reverance. Jesus said my house shall be called a house of prayer.
If I want entertainment, I can go to disney. If I want coffee, there are plenty of starbucks on the way to church.
While I don't think it's wrong to provide fellowship, or have those things, I just think that often churches have to resort to trickery and gimmicks to get people to come because they lack the anointing that is SUPPOSE to draw men to christ.
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12-29-2008, 02:24 PM
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Re: TRANSRIPT Of Message By HANEY!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Churches are suppose to be sacred places, spiritual centers that we reverance. Jesus said my house shall be called a house of prayer.
If I want entertainment, I can go to disney. If I want coffee, there are plenty of starbucks on the way to church.
While I don't think it's wrong to provide fellowship, or have those things, I just think that often churches have to resort to trickery and gimmicks to get people to come because they lack the anointing that is SUPPOSE to draw men to christ.
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Have you ever had a potluck dinner at your church? Has your church ever made peanut brittle to sell, or any other such fundraising tool?
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12-29-2008, 02:30 PM
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Re: TRANSRIPT Of Message By HANEY!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Have you ever had a potluck dinner at your church? Has your church ever made peanut brittle to sell, or any other such fundraising tool?
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fellowhip and even fundraisers are okay in their place
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12-29-2008, 02:32 PM
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Re: TRANSRIPT Of Message By HANEY!!!!!!!!!!!!
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fellowhip and even fundraisers are okay in their place
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So, what's the difference?
If you have a Starbucks in the foyer of the church, I'm quite sure the church is benefitting financially from its business.
Not sure I understand the difference here - no one is making anyone purchase a cup of coffee from the coffee shop before they can enter the sanctuary, if they don't want one, they don't have to buy one.
By the way, most churhes have "fellowship halls" for the sole purpose of "fellowshipping".
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12-29-2008, 02:48 PM
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Re: TRANSRIPT Of Message By HANEY!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I think you are missing the point.
The coffee bars are to encourage people to hang out and get to know one another - you know, learn where there might be some needs in their lives and minister to them one on one. Why give Starbucks the money when they can come to church and get it and rub elbows with the saints?
Why would anyone try to "trick" people to come to church - - they either want God or they don't.
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I don't see anywhere the apostles used merchandise to bring in the masses. There were feast in different homes, but the feast was because of the masses, not the other way around. The church was built on itself, having church. The apostles went to the tabernacle to teach and pray, they went to peoples homes to fellowship and eat.
The question is a valid one, why would anyone want to tempt people to come to church ?
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So, what's the difference?
If you have a Starbucks in the foyer of the church, I'm quite sure the church is benefitting financially from its business.
Not sure I understand the difference here - no one is making anyone purchase a cup of coffee from the coffee shop before they can enter the sanctuary, if they don't want one, they don't have to buy one.
By the way, most churhes have "fellowship halls" for the sole purpose of "fellowshipping".
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Yes, fellowship halls , that is where fellowship belongs. It does not matter if someone wants coffee or not. Coffee should not be the reason we go to church.
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12-29-2008, 02:51 PM
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Re: TRANSRIPT Of Message By HANEY!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by scotty
I don't see anywhere the apostles used merchandise to bring in the masses. There were feast in different homes, but the feast was because of the masses, not the other way around. The church was built on itself, having church. The apostles went to the tabernacle to teach and pray, they went to peoples homes to fellowship and eat.
The question is a valid one, why would anyone want to tempt people to come to church ?
Yes, fellowship halls , that is where fellowship belongs. It does not matter if someone wants coffee or not. Coffee should not be the reason we go to church.
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Scottay, you are being difficult.......lol!
No one is saying coffee is the reason you go to church.
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12-29-2008, 02:56 PM
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Re: TRANSRIPT Of Message By HANEY!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Scottay, you are being difficult.......lol!
No one is saying coffee is the reason you go to church.
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12-29-2008, 03:00 PM
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Re: TRANSRIPT Of Message By HANEY!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Scottay, you are being difficult.......lol!
No one is saying coffee is the reason you go to church.
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I know I am Ms Renda and I'm sorry cause I don't mean to be , I never was very good at getting across what I'm feeling.... 
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You can't reach the world with your talents. People are sick and tired of religious talents. People need a Holy Ghost annointed church with real fruits to reach out and touch their lives. ~ Pastor Burrell Crabtree
In fact I think that the insinuation of "hateful" Pentecostals is coming mostly from the fertile imaginations of bitter, backslidden ex Apostolics who are constantly trying to find a way to justify their actions. ~ strait shooter
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12-29-2008, 10:31 PM
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Re: TRANSRIPT Of Message By HANEY!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by scotty
The question is a valid one, why would anyone want to tempt people to come to church ?
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To feel the presence of God and hear an anointed message.
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Yes, fellowship halls , that is where fellowship belongs. It does not matter if someone wants coffee or not. Coffee should not be the reason we go to church.
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nobody said coffee is the reason WE go to church, because WE are the church. There is no "only valid reason" for a sinner to "come to church" or to stand there on the street corner and listen to what you have to say. Fellowship Halls were not made for sinners. They are made for saints though do to the church's openess there is no reason a sinner can't be with us too
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12-29-2008, 02:54 PM
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Re: TRANSRIPT Of Message By HANEY!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by Michael Phelps
So, what's the difference?
If you have a Starbucks in the foyer of the church, I'm quite sure the church is benefitting financially from its business.
Not sure I understand the difference here - no one is making anyone purchase a cup of coffee from the coffee shop before they can enter the sanctuary, if they don't want one, they don't have to buy one.
By the way, most churhes have "fellowship halls" for the sole purpose of "fellowshipping".
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I have no problem with fellowship or having coffee, getting to know one another better, etc I think that is very healthy & neccessary for a church.
I just don't want it to take the place of prayer or church. everything in its proper place.
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