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Old 12-29-2008, 02:48 PM
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I think you are missing the point.

The coffee bars are to encourage people to hang out and get to know one another - you know, learn where there might be some needs in their lives and minister to them one on one. Why give Starbucks the money when they can come to church and get it and rub elbows with the saints?

Why would anyone try to "trick" people to come to church - - they either want God or they don't.
I don't see anywhere the apostles used merchandise to bring in the masses. There were feast in different homes, but the feast was because of the masses, not the other way around. The church was built on itself, having church. The apostles went to the tabernacle to teach and pray, they went to peoples homes to fellowship and eat.

The question is a valid one, why would anyone want to tempt people to come to church ?

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So, what's the difference?

If you have a Starbucks in the foyer of the church, I'm quite sure the church is benefitting financially from its business.

Not sure I understand the difference here - no one is making anyone purchase a cup of coffee from the coffee shop before they can enter the sanctuary, if they don't want one, they don't have to buy one.

By the way, most churhes have "fellowship halls" for the sole purpose of "fellowshipping".
Yes, fellowship halls , that is where fellowship belongs. It does not matter if someone wants coffee or not. Coffee should not be the reason we go to church.
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Re: TRANSRIPT Of Message By HANEY!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I don't see anywhere the apostles used merchandise to bring in the masses. There were feast in different homes, but the feast was because of the masses, not the other way around. The church was built on itself, having church. The apostles went to the tabernacle to teach and pray, they went to peoples homes to fellowship and eat.

The question is a valid one, why would anyone want to tempt people to come to church ?



Yes, fellowship halls , that is where fellowship belongs. It does not matter if someone wants coffee or not. Coffee should not be the reason we go to church.
Scottay, you are being difficult.......lol!

No one is saying coffee is the reason you go to church.
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Scottay, you are being difficult.......lol!

No one is saying coffee is the reason you go to church.
If they don't serve a good carmel latte, I ain't going!
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Scottay, you are being difficult.......lol!

No one is saying coffee is the reason you go to church.
I know I am Ms Renda and I'm sorry cause I don't mean to be , I never was very good at getting across what I'm feeling....
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The question is a valid one, why would anyone want to tempt people to come to church ?

To feel the presence of God and hear an anointed message.


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Yes, fellowship halls , that is where fellowship belongs. It does not matter if someone wants coffee or not. Coffee should not be the reason we go to church.


nobody said coffee is the reason WE go to church, because WE are the church. There is no "only valid reason" for a sinner to "come to church" or to stand there on the street corner and listen to what you have to say. Fellowship Halls were not made for sinners. They are made for saints though do to the church's openess there is no reason a sinner can't be with us too
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