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Old 04-06-2007, 09:39 PM
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I know what it's like to have trust issues, too. It's taken me the 38 years I've been alive to learn to (or allow myself - or make myself) trust Jesus. I, too, have had bad experiences with authority figures in my life - in and out of church; parents, step-parents, relatives, boss, teacher, a pastor, "friends". As a result, I couldn't trust Jesus either. Believe me, I tried!

But then I got to a place in my life where Jesus was the ONLY one I could trust. He was it. I finally discovered that Jesus is the only one who had my best interest at heart - always; despite what I could see from my skewed perception. HE was the only one who was always available, who always loved me, who I could always trust. My pain and fear drove me to Him. I had no choice. I felt alone - I felt betrayed. Those I trusted hurt me. Those I thought cared about me used me. What choice(s) in life did I have left??

Normally, I would have secluded myself, trusted no one, pushed everyone away, became angry - perhaps bitter; but for some reason... it was like it was suddenly clear to me -- I realized that I had JESUS! Since then, the hurt has lessened. And though I can't say that I have a lot of trust in people; I don't have that same fear anymore. Now I **KNOW** (heart-knowledge; not just head-knowledge) that Jesus is FOR me! It's a GREAT place to be - in that knowledge.

HE'S GOOD! Don't give up on trying to fully trust Him. My life's still not perfect. It probably never will be. But that's okay, as long as I have Jesus! Because, again, He's FOR me. He's for YOU as well! I pray that this FACT will become heart-knowledge for you, too.
I know you didn't post this to me or for me, but it spoke volumes. Someday I hope to apply the above to my life as you have done.
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Old 04-06-2007, 09:46 PM
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I know what it's like to have trust issues, too. It's taken me the 38 years I've been alive to learn to (or allow myself - or make myself) trust Jesus. I, too, have had bad experiences with authority figures in my life - in and out of church; parents, step-parents, relatives, boss, teacher, a pastor, "friends". As a result, I couldn't trust Jesus either. Believe me, I tried!

But then I got to a place in my life where Jesus was the ONLY one I could trust. He was it. I finally discovered that Jesus is the only one who had my best interest at heart - always; despite what I could see from my skewed perception. HE was the only one who was always available, who always loved me, who I could always trust. My pain and fear drove me to Him. I had no choice. I felt alone - I felt betrayed. Those I trusted hurt me. Those I thought cared about me used me. What choice(s) in life did I have left??

Normally, I would have secluded myself, trusted no one, pushed everyone away, became angry - perhaps bitter; but for some reason... it was like it was suddenly clear to me -- I realized that I had JESUS! Since then, the hurt has lessened. And though I can't say that I have a lot of trust in people; I don't have that same fear anymore. Now I **KNOW** (heart-knowledge; not just head-knowledge) that Jesus is FOR me! It's a GREAT place to be - in that knowledge.

HE'S GOOD! Don't give up on trying to fully trust Him. My life's still not perfect. It probably never will be. But that's okay, as long as I have Jesus! Because, again, He's FOR me. He's for YOU as well! I pray that this FACT will become heart-knowledge for you, too.
Excellent post, Subdued and very heart felt!!!
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Old 04-06-2007, 11:15 PM
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I have had a problem sometimes feeling accepted as I am for who I am.
Getting too close to people and allowing people to get too close to me
frightens me and sometimes makes me feel panicky
but ....
I've never had a problem trusting Jesus.

He won me over by a love so pure
so amazing so brilliant so all-encompassing
so accepting and nurturing and forgiving and assuring
without judgment and measureless ....

Taking away my fear, my shame, my sin and iniquity,
replacing it with joy and peace and power and hope
and a knowledge that I was loved
by Someone ..... the Mighty King of the Universe
Lover of my Soul, my Deliverer, Defender, Strong Tower

Who would never leave me, abandon me,
reject me, betray me wish me ill .....
or ever hang me out to dry!

I could never walk away from that kind of LOVE!
No, never!!
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Old 04-07-2007, 12:07 AM
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Old 04-07-2007, 01:42 AM
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I have had a problem sometimes feeling accepted as I am for who I am.
Getting too close to people and allowing people to get too close to me
frightens me and sometimes makes me feel panicky
but ....
I've never had a problem trusting Jesus.
I was actually thinking about this the other day... and I thought "I have a lot of trouble letting people in.. and I'm afraid that has carried over to my walk with God Slap me and throw cold water in my face...
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Old 04-07-2007, 08:19 AM
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Before we wander to far afield I just want to remind everyone that this thread is really about Michlow's rebellious spirit and inability to subject herself to authority.















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Old 04-07-2007, 09:30 AM
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I don't always feel accepted. Does anybody? Nope. Not even great, wonderful, smart, popular people.
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Old 04-07-2007, 09:58 AM
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I am spinning this off from the Church Twice a month thread, where during a 'Fix Michlow' intervention, Heb 13:17 has been repeated many many times.

As I was thinking about it this morning, I had these thoughts:

I think we would all agree that we obey them ONLY within the bounds of Biblical truth, we are not going to obey if they tell us to do something that is wrong. So, really, if I don't think the thing I am being ordered to do is biblical, why is that rebellion? And if I obey when I DO believe that what I am being told is biblical, then am I really "Obeying" or am I just doing what I think is right anyway?
To obey a lying devil sinning preacher is as bad as obeying an husband who does the same. At a local UPC assembly the preacher runs alot of people off because people has to do everything his way.Yes if a preacher is of God obey him. I seen a oneness preacher get upset one day because someone moved a plant in the front evter way of the church building.
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Old 04-07-2007, 10:02 AM
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To obey a lying devil sinning preacher is as bad as obeying an husband who does the same. At a local UPC assembly the preacher runs alot of people off because people has to do everything his way.Yes if a preacher is of God obey him. I seen a oneness preacher get upset one day because someone moved a plant in the front evter way of the church building.
You are such a ray of sunshine and a breath of fresh air.
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Old 04-07-2007, 10:10 AM
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You are such a ray of sunshine and a breath of fresh air.
Thank you,I love speaking truth and some people hate truth rather the straighten their act up and use their head.Some pastors or preachers was never called of God.
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