Is the Holiness Movement Dead?

[Evang.Benincasa]

I have never walked into a holiness Apostolic church and it was dead.
When they get that Hammod bumping, those saints take off running and shouting.

[Neck]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

I have never walked into a holiness Apostolic church and it was dead.
When they get that Hammod bumping, those saints take off running and shouting.

They are shaking the guilt for having watched TV off them....

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Neck

They are shaking the guilt for having watched TV off them....

No television, they save that for the liberals who think watching the tube is balance.

[Sept5SavedTeen]

Now I'm not one to say that the number of people justify a movement, or else, I'd be a Catholic, however, as for the "Conservative Holiness Movement", if we're defining that as Wesleyan-Arminian and trinitarian, then yes, that movement is dead. I used to post on a message board called myholiness.com (it was truly their holiness they were focused on), and the sense I got of this group (which was fairly diverse geographically), it was dead. Allegheny Methodists, Pilgrim Holiness (Midwest and New York Conferences), Bible Methodists, Pilgrim Nazarenes, Nazarenes and independent holiness people made up a lot of the people on this board. I knew, and made the acquiantance, of an Allegheny Methodist girl who went to the church in Tioga, LA, right by the Pentecostals of Alexandria, and the Allegheny church had only about 20 members, and they were always confused with Pentecostals. The Pilgrim Holiness Church (New York Conference) in the town by my house has about a dozen members, and has been there for nearly 75 years now. The Free Methodist denomination, which I was apart of, has practically left the Conservative Holiness Movement. And Hobe Sound Bible College and God's Bible School, the two main holiness colleges are small and have not gone very far.
The holiness movement was popular when their styles and fashions were closer to the world and time they were living in. As the Pentecostals came on the scene, the Holiness movement sort of lost it's distinctiveness. The Conservative Holiness Movement's difference with most of Oneness Pentecost, these days, is that the CHM follows the dress standards a bit more strictly, makes sure it stressed the long-sleeve standard, and they don't speak in tongues.
There is also a holiness movement within the Conservative Holiness Movement, known as the Evening Light Movement started by Daniel Sydney Warner, around 1880, and from the onset of that movement there have been three branches that I have looked into, the Church of GOD (Anderson), COG (Guthrie) and COG (Restoration). They're a very interesting subset, where Anderson started getting liberal, so Guthrie was a reaction to that, and then a disgruntled member of Guthrie, around 1980, got disgruntled with the "compromise" he saw, and he started the "Restoration", and they are among the most conservative groups I have ever seen, and they mainly convert Anabaptists to their group. Even among this, their growth and conservsions are from other groups, not from the "world." Their brand of holiness is amoung the most legalistic I've seen.
There are still pockets of the Conservative Holiness Movement worth looking into, but it's sort of irrelevant and dead in the grand scheme of religious study, unless one were studying American religions, and even then, the "Conservative Holiness Movement" has a start and end date.

-Bro. Alex

[Evang.Benincasa]

I went by the Pensecola Brownsville Assembly of God, and I thought that place was spooky. Brother Billy Adams' church is a shouting group, and their prayer room is packed with lively praying people before service.

[freeatlast]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

I went by the Pensecola Brownsville Assembly of God, and I thought that place was spooky. Brother Billy Adams' church is a shouting group, and their prayer room is packed with lively praying people before service.

WoW Eb. I went to this church for a year back when Biily's dad pastored.

Havent seen Billy for years. We were very good friends when I attended there.

You described them rightly, as I remeber we would run, drop and roll, shout and spend time in "holy luaghter" on command.

They needed a traffic director, because when one would run ALL would join in.

There was a head on one night in front of the pulpit that required stiches ;-)

Would love to visit with Billy and his family againb if I ever get to the panhandle.

[TJJJ]

Originally Posted by freeatlast

WoW Eb. I went to this church for a year back when Biily's dad pastored.

Havent seen Billy for years. We were very good friends when I attended there.

You described them rightly, as I remeber we would run, drop and roll, shout and spend time in "holy luaghter" on command.

They needed a traffic director, because when one would run ALL would join in.

There was a head on one night in front of the pulpit that required stiches ;-)

Would love to visit with Billy and his family againb if I ever get to the panhandle.

Been in services like that, they are great aren't they!

[freeatlast]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

I have never walked into a holiness Apostolic church and it was dead.
When they get that Hammod bumping, those saints take off running and shouting.

This is sad.

[TJJJ]

Originally Posted by freeatlast

This is sad.

Uh, I guess I need enlightenment now. Why is this sad?

Granny dying, that is sad.
Pet dying, that is sad,

Holiness people worshipping God, SAD?

Explain please?