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Old 01-22-2009, 04:27 PM
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For years persons of color and women have been discriminated against.
Several years ago "Affirmative Action" reversed that and has established legal discrimination against white males.
And some in the AA community have a good for you attitude about it. Like now you know we been going through mindset. Interesting that it times past if you were black the presidency was off limits, but now he made it in because he is black.
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Old 01-22-2009, 08:24 PM
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And some in the AA community have a good for you attitude about it. Like now you know we been going through mindset. Interesting that it times past if you were black the presidency was off limits, but now he made it in because he is black.

He was not elected President of the United States because he is Black.

If you are going to make this statement, then back it up with the proof.


This unlikely President was elected in large part because GWB's approval ratings were SO BAD!

It would have been nothing short of a miracle for the Republicans to win that election.
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He was not elected President of the United States because he is Black.

If you are going to make this statement, then back it up with the proof.


This unlikely President was elected in large part because GWB's approval ratings were SO BAD!

It would have been nothing short of a miracle for the Republicans to win that election.
I disagree. IMO, had he been white, Hillary would have defeated him in the primaries.

I do not think McCain could have won against her either.

It's historic, whether race or gender.
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Old 01-22-2009, 08:53 PM
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I disagree. IMO, had he been white, Hillary would have defeated him in the primaries.

I do not think McCain could have won against her either.

It's historic, whether race or gender.

However, your post ignores the fact that a Republican was not going to win that election.

Had Obama run as a Republican, he would have lost.

Therefore, he was not elected because he is Black.

It's not like millions of Americans decided one day to vote for President Obama simply because we wanted to "paint the White House black."


How is it so difficult to fathom that many people, naively or not, voted for this man because they believe him?

Reducing his accomplishment solely to his race is insulting and not right at all.
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However, your post ignores the fact that a Republican was not going to win that election.

Had Obama run as a Republican, he would have lost.

Therefore, he was not elected because he is Black.

It's not like millions of Americans decided one day to vote for President Obama simply because we wanted to "paint the White House black."


How is it so difficult to fathom that many people, naively or not, voted for this man because they believe him?

Reducing his accomplishment solely to his race is insulting and not right at all.
I also posted that Hillary would have won as well. "History" being made was a major proponent for him, IMO.
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I also posted that Hillary would have won as well. "History" being made was a major proponent for him, IMO.
Maybe.

But ChTatum, I just don't think that MOST folks made (making history) their deciding factor.

For some, "making history" was the deciding factor. However, President Obama's victory margin was wide enough so that those who voted for or against him simply because of his race just didn't matter.


Had President Obama lacked charisma, education and if he had no political background at all and had Hillary been a housewife, no more and no less, would either one of them had been attractive candidates to vote for?



Maybe President #44 would be a former lawyer from Carolina who's marital infidelities would have been forgiven just so that we don't have another 4 years of Republicans in power.

President Obama was elected on believability and on the merits that many folks perceive him to have.

Right or wrong, many Americans place our current soup sandwich squarely on the plate of GWB and are looking to BHO to be the "miracle man."
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He was not elected President of the United States because he is Black.

If you are going to make this statement, then back it up with the proof.


This unlikely President was elected in large part because GWB's approval ratings were SO BAD!

It would have been nothing short of a miracle for the Republicans to win that election.
I agree. Except I feel that a lot of GWB's approval ratings being in the tank were caused not only by the constant negative coverage he received from the media, but also much of his base felt betrayed by his foot dragging in some areas and free spending ways.

McCain seems to have gotten a larger percent of the vote than just those who dissed Bush. I think a lot of conservative types told the pollsters that Bush was doing poorly but they ended up voting for McCain anyway.

Obama won mainly because he ran a brilliant campaign. And he started that campaign back in the 1990's.
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