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Old 01-30-2009, 12:16 PM
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Re: Can a person have the holy ghost and be demon

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I agree with your points here nahkoe. I suppose it's important to remember that a lot of Spirit-filled people can still have a lot of of problems without invoking demons. I think that in the past we've been too quick to call everything a "spirit" and not look further.
Interesting you should say this because those that have been dealing with casting spirits out say the same thing in reverse.
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Interesting you should say this because those that have been dealing with casting spirits out say the same thing in reverse.
They're saying that we're not calling enough things spirits? Or, not calling a spirit a spirit in favor of calling it something else? Or something else completely? lol Just curious what they're saying...I'd love to know the why as well.
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Old 01-30-2009, 12:32 PM
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They're saying that we're not calling enough things spirits? Or, not calling a spirit a spirit in favor of calling it something else? Or something else completely? lol Just curious what they're saying...I'd love to know the why as well.
I think if you read Wm Bustard's book Killers in Hiding he talks about that a good bit.

The minister I talked to goes to different churches and either takes or trains a team to work with him. And he says he/they cast out spirits from many people including ministers.

As it has been stated not every situation is a spirit causing it but is a human spirit that can not be cast out.

But according to this minister many HG filled folks have spirits that he cast out. Now my thinking is if they are oppressing and not in can they be cast out? Or perhaps he is rebuking them to leave and stop tormenting.

As someone stated and it may have been you, there has to be some accountability with the person to not open themselves up for a return of the same spirit.

I will tell you one situation I personally saw. Years ago the sunday school director was praying in the altar and began squirming like a snake. The pastor was out of town when this happened. She was an altar worker and prayed with a lot of people and I have heard her speak in tongues many times.

I call Bro. Barnes and asked how can this be, because like most everyone else I had been taught a HG filled person can NOT have a demon also. That is when he began to teach me about the human spirit. And IF the person allows their human spirit to continue doing that for attention then they could open themselves up for demon possession.
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