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Old 03-27-2009, 09:14 PM
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Re: Jason DEBATE MATTHEW 24 Luke21 Mark 13

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Brother, you are a riot. I asked for a YES or a NO. Oh well, at least you make things interesting.
No the riot is YOU, you make your statements and say what I believe is false? Then you fail to be able to explain these three chapters in a forum that allows you freedom to present any amount of discussion on any topic concerning eschatology? You say that I'm a riot? Have you ever seen an Atheist debate a Theist? An Evolutionist debate a Creationist? You are making me chuckle (a parson term) if those topics aren't broad I don't know what is. Take my challenge, I promise, for anyone that can condemn me and my family to a devil's hell over what I believe, should be able to PROVE that Matthew 24, Luke 21, and Mark 13 is future.



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Okay, let me make this plain, as others already have posted on this thread.
A debate on 3 chapters is to broad.
Others who? Other Preterists? Other Apostolics who believe in Fulfilled Eschatology? Are those the ones?

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I want to debate the main point of preterism. Is the coming of Christ past or future. If you are so hung up on Matthew 24. We can let Matthew 24:27-31 be our foundational scripture and go from there. Why can you not commit to this?
I'm hung up? I'm not hung up on anything but the key chapters that prove the eschatology of Christ. Everyone who teaches eschatology MUST deal with these chapters.

I suggest you fit them into your debate schedule.

You will affirm that Matthew 24, Luke 21 and Mark 13 is future and I will confirm that they are past.

Thank you and I will see you in the debate thread.

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Old 03-27-2009, 10:18 PM
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Re: Jason DEBATE MATTHEW 24 Luke21 Mark 13

Tying these guys down to an affrimative proposition is like trying to drive a nail in jello. Ain't going to happen. They ain't going to answer direct questions and they are not going to follow a debate format forget. They are not dumb the questions hem them up. They want to post all their prewritten stuffand ignore any affirmative argument.
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Old 03-27-2009, 10:43 PM
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Tying these guys down to an affrimative proposition is like trying to drive a nail in jello.
Elder with all due respect, walk softly concerning the above.
I have watched you for years go back and forth with myself and others on this topic and you disappeared everytime.


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Ain't going to happen.
Happens all the time Brother Epley, we have thousands of posts in the Eschatology threads, yet I don't see any of yours? Since you have so much knowledge of what you believe why aren't you down their defending your positon? In Just Preachers it wasn't you who carried the mail, but you wanted to enlist Micheal Blume? Mike Blume who had said that Ultra Conservatives were the spiirit off anti-christ? If what we believe is so false why can't you ever refute it?

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They ain't going to answer direct questions
Elder Epley you have never answered the question I asked you about your belief that souls are asleep before God in heaven, and not in their graves or awake in heaven. That was about 6 years ago. I have asked you numerous times after that , and just let it go. Where are the dead now Brother Epley?

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and they are not going to follow a debate format forget.
Elder Epley, if what we believe is so wrong tthen where are all the heros to defend the faith? Elder Burk was posting, Brother James Anderson BAILED.


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They are not dumb the questions hem them up. They want to post all their prewritten stuffand ignore any affirmative argument.
Prewritten stuff? Yet you won't rebuke Brother James Anderson for posting miles of Trinitarian commentaries.

You know Elder your not dumb, you know this teaching is sweeping through Pentecost and it will do it without my help Brother Blume's help or Brother Burk's help. You can't stop it. You have been watching me post on everything from Dan to Beersheba, and I use nothing but chapter and verse, you have never disrespected my postings when they are on issues you agree with. Yet, you know you cannot refute what we believe. You know it.
You were jumping up and down behind your boy, Anderson, and he dropped the watermelon, and now you come here to disrespect us.

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Old 03-27-2009, 10:29 PM
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Re: Jason DEBATE MATTHEW 24 Luke21 Mark 13

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No the riot is YOU, you make your statements and say what I believe is false? Then you fail to be able to explain these three chapters in a forum that allows you freedom to present any amount of discussion on any topic concerning eschatology? You say that I'm a riot? Have you ever seen an Atheist debate a Theist? An Evolutionist debate a Creationist? You are making me chuckle (a parson term) if those topics aren't broad I don't know what is. Take my challenge, I promise, for anyone that can condemn me and my family to a devil's hell over what I believe, should be able to PROVE that Matthew 24, Luke 21, and Mark 13 is future.


I'm hung up? I'm not hung up on anything but the key chapters that prove the eschatology of Christ. Everyone who teaches eschatology MUST deal with these chapters.

I suggest you fit them into your debate schedule.

You will affirm that Matthew 24, Luke 21 and Mark 13 is future and I will confirm that they are past.

Thank you and I will see you in the debate thread.

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

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bro. I have not condemned you nor your family. However, I think your doctrine is to weak to deal with the crux of the issue. Elder Epley nailed it when he said trying to pin you guys down is like drying to drive a nail in jell-o.
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Old 03-27-2009, 11:52 PM
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bro. I have not condemned you nor your family. However, I think your doctrine is to weak to deal with the crux of the issue. Elder Epley nailed it when he said trying to pin you guys down is like drying to drive a nail in jell-o.
Yet, to have such a strong opinion you had continually refused to answer my questions in the eschatology forum on Matthew 24, Luke 21, and Mark 13.

You want to know what is insane about this? The Godhead is as broad a topic (as well as Creation Science) as Matthew 24:1-34, Luke 21:1-12,20-28, Mark 13:1-30. Now you wouldn't see anyone screaming foul to debate the Godhead, or even go against an Atheist in debate, but yet it is like pulling teeth to get one Brother to comply to this wether in debate with 600 word limit or in open forum with no limit.

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