Harrassed & Detained For Carrying Cash @ Airport

[MissBrattified]

Well, I think he was trying to prove a point, and HE knew he was recording the conversation. If it had been me, I would have just said, "I just came from a fundraising event, and these are the funds collected from t-shirt/bumper sticker sales, etc." I do realize that we don't HAVE to give certain information, and I respect his right to withhold it. As one of the guys in the video stated, keeping him off the airplane is one thing; escorting him to the police station simply for carrying cash on his person (or in his suitcase) is really stupid. What next? Are police officers who stop people for speeding going to go through their purses, wallets and vehicles to see if they're carrying cash, and take them down for questioning if they have more than a certain amount?

[EA]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

What next? Are police officers who stop people for speeding going to go through their purses, wallets and vehicles to see if they're carrying cash, and take them down for questioning if they have more than a certain amount?

According to Obama, wealth is evil, so it wouldn't surprise me at all.

I rarely, if ever, use a debit or credit card because I feel like in doing so I give up my privacy.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Well, I think he was trying to prove a point, and HE knew he was recording the conversation. If it had been me, I would have just said, "I just came from a fundraising event, and these are the funds collected from t-shirt/bumper sticker sales, etc." I do realize that we don't HAVE to give certain information, and I respect his right to withhold it. As one of the guys in the video stated, keeping him off the airplane is one thing; escorting him to the police station simply for carrying cash on his person (or in his suitcase) is really stupid. What next? Are police officers who stop people for speeding going to go through their purses, wallets and vehicles to see if they're carrying cash, and take them down for questioning if they have more than a certain amount?

That's another thing...if this guy did all this to prove a point...he took valuable time and manpower away from performing legitimate security duties. He's playing games. I'd be highly irate if I were a security official.

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by Aquila

That's another thing...if this guy did all this to prove a point...he took valuable time and manpower away from performing legitimate security duties. He's playing games. I'd be highly irate if I were a security official.

He wasn't the only one playing games, if that's what he did. The officers who detained him should have been at LEAST smart enough to advise him of his rights. Surely they knew whether or not he HAD to answer the questions? LOL!!!!

They detained him FIRST, then he asked if he HAD to answer questions, and said he would answer, if they said he had to by law. That isn't entirely uncooperative, although I think I would have just said what I needed to in order to get out of there!

The security "official" should be irate with his employees for detaining someone for carrying $4700.00 (or so), when they could have been searching luggage for REAL threats.

I'm amazed, too, that $4700.00 is being deemed a large amount of cash. It really isn't.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

He wasn't the only one playing games, if that's what he did. The officers who detained him should have been at LEAST smart enough to advise him of his rights. Surely they knew whether or not he HAD to answer the questions? LOL!!!!

When he asked if he was required by law to answer the questions asked of him they stated that they were simply asking him some simple questions to clarify matters. Please also note...this recording picks up in the back room. It doesn't pick up at the actual checkpoint. If you listen, you'll hear the agent from the check point explaining that this was the same thing the guy was doing at the check point when he was trying to get the guy to his plane on time. This snotty little activist began playing his games at the check point. The agent isn't permitted to allow anyone through who behaves suspiciously or is uncooperative. I'd not doubt that the those in line behind this guy became disturbed at his behavior also. This agent obviously called for his higher ups and law enforcement to take the guy aside to get some answers. The recording picks up in this room where the guy is being asked questions and still refusing to cooperate. Bro...that's real suspicious behavior. I don't fault them at all.

On a side note... I wouldn't be surprised if the guy was paid to do this for conservative media attention. Frankly... I pray that America realizes what kind of crack pot this guy is. Because there are enemies watching this trying to see what limits they can push to get money through the system. This guy is only making an idiot of himself... and if taken seriously enough could weaken our national security. This isn't a joke.

They detained him FIRST, then he asked if he HAD to answer questions, and said he would answer, if they said he had to by law. That isn't entirely uncooperative, although I think I would have just said what I needed to in order to get out of there!

Listen to it again. The agent at the check point clearly states that these were the games the man was playing in line at the check point while the agent was trying to get the man through to his flight. The man was detained for being uncooperative at an airline security checkpoint.

The security "official" should be irate with his employees for detaining someone for carrying $4700.00 (or so), when they could have been searching luggage for REAL threats.

It should be a crime to play these kinds of games with airport security because it takes them away from policing REAL threats.

Had it been you or me, we would have answered all his questions while at the check point and gotten on our plane.

I'm amazed, too, that $4700.00 is being deemed a large amount of cash. It really isn't.

It is unusual to carry that much cash, especially when traveling. But I'm realizing that most here don't get that either. The real reason why the guy was detained was because he was uncooperative with airport security and law enforcement. Had he not played games at the check point he would have only been shortly delayed and could have caught his flight. Had he begun answering questions in the room where he was taken he would have been released and perhaps caught his flight. The man was pushing the buttons of these law enforcement officials. They simply asked some common sense questions. What I find interesting is that he wasn't willing to cooperate with airport authorities who are trying to protect him...but he's more than willing to blab about where he got the money etc. on national television. The man's a creep. Oh...and then there's the fact that this is great publicity for Ron Paul's book. I wouldn't be surprised if he was paid this money to do this very thing and is lying about it being money from sales at a conference. This guy's an idiot.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by Aquila

When he asked if he was required by law to answer the questions asked of him they stated that they were simply asking him some simple questions to clarify matters. Please also note...this recording picks up in the back room. It doesn't pick up at the actual checkpoint. If you listen, you'll hear the agent from the check point explaining that this was the same thing the guy was doing at the check point when he was trying to get the guy to his plane on time. This snotty little activist began playing his games at the check point. The agent isn't permitted to allow anyone through who behaves suspiciously or is uncooperative. I'd not doubt that the those in line behind this guy became disturbed at his behavior also. This agent obviously called for his higher ups and law enforcement to take the guy aside to get some answers. The recording picks up in this room where the guy is being asked questions and still refusing to cooperate. Bro...that's real suspicious behavior. I don't fault them at all.

On a side note... I wouldn't be surprised if the guy was paid to do this for conservative media attention. Frankly... I pray that America realizes what kind of crack pot this guy is. Because there are enemies watching this trying to see what limits they can push to get money through the system. This guy is only making an idiot of himself... and if taken seriously enough could weaken our national security. This isn't a joke.

You're as paranoid as coadie. How do you guys make it through the day?

Aquila, let me know what airport you're going to be at - I can't wait to be a feature in the "Right Wing Press Machine" gala.

Originally Posted by Aquila

It should be a crime to play these kinds of games with airport security because it takes them away from policing REAL threats.

Define "Playing games" in a precise legal fashion that would hold up to a court challenge.

Originally Posted by Aquila

Had it been you or me, we would have answered all his questions while at the check point and gotten on our plane.

Had it been you AND me we'd have had trouble coming you with $40.00 cash between us let alone over $4,000!

[coadie]

Originally Posted by pelathais

You're as paranoid as coadie. How do you guys make it through the day?

Aquila, let me know what airport you're going to be at - I can't wait to be a feature in the "Right Wing Press Machine" gala.

Define "Playing games" in a precise legal fashion that would hold up to a court challenge.

Had it been you AND me we'd have had trouble coming you with $40.00 cash between us let alone over $4,000!

Obviously that tells us enterprise is not one of your gifts.

How long have you struggled with dementia praecox? Don't answer for either of you all.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by coadie

Obviously that tells us enterprise is not one of your gifts.

How long have you struggled with dementia praecox? Don't answer for either of you all.

Well, I am encouraged by your response. It's a good sign. Also we see that you can use Google. Why not invest a little time in a free spell checker? I really want to be on your side here.

[Digging4Truth]

Originally Posted by Aquila

When he asked if he was required by law to answer the questions asked of him they stated that they were simply asking him some simple questions to clarify matters. Please also note...this recording picks up in the back room. It doesn't pick up at the actual checkpoint. If you listen, you'll hear the agent from the check point explaining that this was the same thing the guy was doing at the check point when he was trying to get the guy to his plane on time.

That is because it was equally as true at the checkpoint as it was in the back room...

He was not legally required to answer the question.

They tried to make him.

They tried to push him.

They are used to scared sheeple who just can't wait to blurt out the next YES SIR just to appease the great security gods.

He showed them where the line was and, hopefully, they learned a little something today.

I won't hold my breath though.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

That is because it was equally as true at the checkpoint as it was in the back room...

He was not legally required to answer the question.

They tried to make him.

They tried to push him.

He showed them where the line was and, hopefully, they learned a little something today.

I won't hold my breath though.

These are retarded when i listen to their speaking. There are enough lawyers traveling, one may one day have their lunch. These low end door jerkers will try to get the lawyer listed as "conservative activist" i believe is the label missouri uses as did Aquilla and they will get a pattern of hassles. So it is a right to see the TSA profile and they won't cooperate. That will be another charge.
At least there are plain clothes marshals and FBI around that have real training and education. Some of the brown suits will get some reality therapy.

Remember these are a component of class warefare. They do not have enough $$$$ for air travel but they get their thrills imagining they have the authority to detain people and interfere with air travel.

If a pilot friend flies you to Palm Springs, Calif., for golf or your boss sends you to an out-of-the-way spot on business, the trip might soon become less luxurious and more aggravating.

The U.S. Transportation Security Administration is proposing to subject private pilots, business jets and the small airports they use to many of the same security rules imposed on big commercial airlines and airports. If approved, the rules would mean a culture change for hundreds of thousands of travelers who have cherished the freedom and flexibility of private planes.

They include business and leisure travelers, medical personnel, athletes and the wealthy, who have been flying on private planes for decades, long before the TSA and long before 2001, when airline-security measures were increased. Business passengers point to the time savings, while others prize the privacy and convenience of their own planes.
Now, they could be checked against no-fly lists, barred from carrying tools and sporting equipment on board, and may even be required to save a seat for a federal air marshal.

My friends say this applies for max take-off weights over 12,500 pounds. So in agriculture or the oil patch this means a small twin.

A list of passengers must be given an hour before scheduling a take off.
I indirectly like this because it is the rich liberals that on one hand strive to destroy freedom and law and on the other hand want free plane trips with lobbyists to Aruba and Curcao.