You want to know how it will go in the Judgment?

[Pastor Keith]

Originally Posted by Sam

Yes, I will be judged by my works.
I will give an account of every idle word.
But if I have confessed those idle words, I will never face them.

I believe I will be judged by what "sort" (not size) of works I do.
That anything that is wood, hay, and stubble will be burnt
but that anything that is gold, silver, and precious stones will remain.

There are a # of judgments to come, 2 stand out.

For salvation, what people do in response to God's offer of salvation. This of course does not apply to believers.

For reward, this is what believers should concern themselves with, how we steward our time, talent, treasure and take of God's belongings (personal holiness) will determine our place in the Kingdom to come.

[LUKE2447]

Originally Posted by Pastor Keith

There are a # of judgments to come, 2 stand out.

For salvation, what people do in response to God's offer of salvation. This of course does not apply to believers.

For reward, this is what believers should concern themselves with, how we steward our time, talent, treasure and take of God's belongings (personal holiness) will determine our place in the Kingdom to come.

So you believe in Eternal Security?

[Pastor Keith]

Originally Posted by LUKE2447

So you believe in Eternal Security?

No, I don't. What would make you ask?

[LUKE2447]

Originally Posted by Pastor Keith

No, I don't. What would make you ask?

I didn't think so....



For salvation, what people do in response to God's offer of salvation. This of course does not apply to believers.

For reward, this is what believers should concern themselves with, how we steward our time, talent, treasure and take of God's belongings (personal holiness) will determine our place in the Kingdom to come


In the end we will all be judged unto life or death by our works.... If anything is clear in scripture this is it! Your point above seemed to contradict that judgment would not effect our eternal salvation in which we pass unto his glory or unto damnation.

[Pastor Keith]

Originally Posted by LUKE2447

I didn't think so....



For salvation, what people do in response to God's offer of salvation. This of course does not apply to believers.

For reward, this is what believers should concern themselves with, how we steward our time, talent, treasure and take of God's belongings (personal holiness) will determine our place in the Kingdom to come


In the end we will all be judged unto life or death by our works.... If anything is clear in scripture this is it! Your point above seemed to contradict that judgment would not effect our eternal salvation in which we pass unto his glory or unto damnation.

Believers don't have to concern themselves with eternal judgment or the judment to damnation, in that as Sam said our sins have been judged in Christ Jesus.

Since that is the clear teaching of scripture then only thing that remains it to be faithful to remain in Christ and bear fruit so that I might be rewarded in the judgment seat of Christ.

[LUKE2447]

Originally Posted by Pastor Keith

Believers don't have to concern themselves with eternal judgment or the judment to damnation, in that as Sam said our sins have been judged in Christ Jesus.

Since that is the clear teaching of scripture then only thing that remains it to be faithful to remain in Christ and bear fruit so that I might be rewarded in the judgment seat of Christ.

Which goes to my point.... Faithful to remain! Thus a "believer" (quasi term) who is not following after the Spirit cannot be faithful to the WORKS "OF" the Spirit! Thus he is judged and salvation is an issues!

Jesus clearly teaches becareful in this area!

[Timmy]

Originally Posted by LUKE2447

Which goes to my point.... Faithful to remain! Thus a "believer" (quasi term) who is not following after the Spirit cannot be faithful to the WORKS "OF" the Spirit! Thus he is judged and salvation is an issues!

Jesus clearly teaches becareful in this area!

Scary.