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Old 06-19-2009, 11:20 AM
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Re: Keeping the Standards

Keeping the standards. I like the the thread title.

I keep standards, yes I do.

What most people mean by I keep standards, is I keep the ones that I agree with and expect you to do the same.

The use of internet is forbidden by some, participating in Forums is preached against by others, therefore Elder Epley, you also do not keep standards.

Personally forbidding use of the internet makes much more sence to me than forbidding a man from having any facial hair.

There is only one thing certain about "standards"...they are NO standard.

That our standards have become a test of fellowship or test of salvation is a stench in the nostrils of a holy and rightoues God.
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Old 06-19-2009, 11:57 AM
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Re: Keeping the Standards

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Keeping the standards. I like the the thread title.

I keep standards, yes I do.

What most people mean by I keep standards, is I keep the ones that I agree with and expect you to do the same.

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Personally forbidding use of the internet makes much more sence to me than forbidding a man from having any facial hair.

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That our standards have become a test of fellowship or test of salvation is a stench in the nostrils of a holy and rightoues God.
If keeping the standards is simply that we keep those we agree with and expect others to do the same then ALL of us are keeping standards, even Timmy. Ah, Timmy, you do wear more than the little guy running back and forth at the bottom of your sig line outside your house, right? Ok, as long as he does, then this holds true.

Forbidding internet makes more sense to me than forbidding facial hair too, but don't tell my pastor that. Except by forbidding internet we would have to decide whether we'd forbid all internet (limiting jobs) or forbid internet outside of work or only at home (making somewhat a double standard).

That standards have become a test of fellowship is not a new thing amongst some. There is a concern that if someone with a higher standard preached at their church fellowships someone with a lower standard, they will "devolve" to that standard themselves, or at least the next generation will.
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Old 06-19-2009, 12:52 PM
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If keeping the standards is simply that we keep those we agree with
Yes

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and expect others to do the same
No. Not everyone (con or lib) expects others to keep the same standards as they do themselves.

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then ALL of us are keeping standards, even Timmy. Ah, Timmy, you do wear more than the little guy running back and forth at the bottom of your sig line outside your house, right?
Yes. But again, I don't expect everyone to keep my standards. Some are higher, some are lower. Hooray for variety!

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Ok, as long as he does, then this holds true.
So, if even Timmy has standards, then everyone does!

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Forbidding internet makes more sense to me than forbidding facial hair too, but don't tell my pastor that. Except by forbidding internet we would have to decide whether we'd forbid all internet (limiting jobs) or forbid internet outside of work or only at home (making somewhat a double standard).

That standards have become a test of fellowship is not a new thing amongst some. There is a concern that if someone with a higher standard preached at their church fellowships someone with a lower standard, they will "devolve" to that standard themselves, or at least the next generation will.
"Forbidding" is the key word. As far as "outward standards" go, it's kind of a foreign concept to most outside of OP ranks. (I said most, and yes I do understand that some non-OP churches do this kind of thing, too.) If I were to walk up to my pastor and say "Is it OK if I wear shorts to church?", I guarantee he'd give me a real funny look. He neither allows nor forbids anything like that. (OK, if a nudist walked in, he might have to do some forbidding! )
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