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Old 06-20-2009, 04:29 PM
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Re: Is baptism essential unto salvation?

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It is a matter of historical fact that that blood of Christ was 'applied' at Calvary PRIOR to Christ's resurrection. If it had not been applied, then Christ would not have been resurrected. The resurrection proves that the shed blood of Christ was effective in removing any sin imputed to Christ. ALL sin imputed to Christ was remitted because of his blood BEFORE he rose again.

Why must WE (at any time) apply the blood which the resurrection proves has already been applied and accepted by God?

Our sin was imputed to Christ and it was removed BEFORE the resurrection, thus, as far as the sin imputed to Christ is concerned, it is a matter of history, proven by the resurrection, that the blood has already been applied in the eyes of God (else Christ would not have been raised).

Do you believe the blood of Christ must be applied twice? Once before the resurrection and then again when we are baptized?

AND...

What is the blood being applied to in baptism?If our sins were historically removed before the resurrection, what is the blood being applied to in baptism?
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Anyone,

It is a matter of historical fact that that blood of Christ was 'applied' at Calvary PRIOR to Christ's resurrection. If it had not been applied, then Christ would not have been resurrected. The resurrection proves that the shed blood of Christ was effective in removing any sin imputed to Christ. ALL sin imputed to Christ was remitted because of his blood BEFORE he rose again.

Why must WE (at any time) apply the blood which the resurrection proves has already been applied and accepted by God?

Our sin was imputed to Christ and it was removed BEFORE the resurrection, thus, as far as the sin imputed to Christ is concerned, it is a matter of history, proven by the resurrection, that the blood has already been applied in the eyes of God (else Christ would not have been raised).

Do you believe the blood of Christ must be applied twice? Once before the resurrection and then again when we are baptized?

AND...

What is the blood being applied to in baptism?If our sins were historically removed before the resurrection, what is the blood being applied to in baptism?
If the blood is already applied, then what does faith do?
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Old 06-20-2009, 09:25 PM
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If the blood is already applied, then what does faith do?
Faith brings the justification of life. God grants justification and life to those who believe in the historic finished sin remission of the Cross (John 3:15-16, John 3:36; John 5:24; John 6:40,47; John 11:25,26; Romans 4:5; Romans 5:18; Acts 13:39).

The heart which does not rest in faith that sin was historically dealt with by God through Christ at Calvary remains in condemnation (John 3:18; John 3:36; John 16:8-9). Those who do not believe remain condemned, not because of those sins already remitted on the Cross, but because they've rejected Christ.

Man either:

1) Passes into a state of justification and spiritual LIFE by accepting with a heart of faith the record God gave of his Son setting to seal that God is true.... (John 3:33; 1John 5:13)

OR...

2) Man calls God a liar by rejecting the record he gave of his Son and REMAINS SPIRITUALLY DEAD in a state of condemnation. (1John 5:10-12; John 3:18; John 3:36; John 16:8-9)

The historic application of Christ's shed blood to those sins imputed to him at Calvary resulted in the remission of those sins PRIOR to the resurrection. Christ's blood was applied to our sin (imputed to Christ) and accepted by God PRIOR to the resurrection, else Christ would not have been raised.

If we say the blood of Christ needs to be applied to our sins AGAIN, we are saying the work of the Cross was inadequate and ineffective. If we say the blood needs to be applied today..... we do not have faith in the finished work of the Cross.

Do you believe the blood of Christ, already applied to our sins BEFORE the resurrection, needs to be applied to our sins again today?
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