Modern day hellfire preachers are softies, listen to some from the past, what a great doctrine of the church!
JONATHAN EDWARDS
The sight of hell torments will exalt the happiness of the saints forever. . .Can the believing father in Heaven be happy with his unbelieving children in Hell. . . I tell you, yea! Such will be his sense of justice that it will increase rather than diminish his bliss.
["The Eternity of Hell Torments" (Sermon), April 1739 & Discourses on Various Important Subjects, 1738]
Jeremy Taylor of the Church of England"The bodies of the damned shall be crowded together in hell, like grapes in a wine-press, which press one another till they burst; every distinct sense and organ shall be assailed with its own appropriate and most exquisite sufferings."“Husbands shall see their wives, parents shall see their children tormented before their eyes…the bodies of the damned shall be crowded together in hell like grapes in a wine-press, which press on another till they burst…”“This temporal fire is but a painted fire in respect of that penetrating and real fire in hell.”
Nieremberg 1658
“We are amazed at the inhumanity of Phalaris, who roasted men in his brazen bull; this was joy in respect of the fire of hell, which penetrates the very entrails without consuming them.” Pains of Hell
Francis De Sales 1622
“Represent to yourself a dark city all burning and stinking with fire and brimstone. The damned are in the depth of hell within this woful city, where they suffer unspeakable torments in all their senses and members. Consider above all the eternity of their pains, which above all things makes hell intolerable.” Garden of the Soul.
Barrow
“Our bodies will be afflicted continually by the sulphureous flame, piercing the inmost sinews.”
John Bunyan 1688
“Their bodies will be raised from the dead as vessels for the soul—vessels of wrath. The soul will breathe hell-fire, and smoke and coal will seem to hang upon its burning lips, yea the face, eyes, and ears will seem to be chimneys and vents for the flame, and the smoke of the burning , which God, by His breath, hath kindled therein, and upon, them, which will be held one in another, to the great torment and distress of each other.” Works, ii 136.
Baxter 1691
“Is it an intolerable thing to burn part of thy body by holding it in the fire? What then will it be to suffer ten thousand times more for ever in hell?” Saints Rest
South 1716 “Every lash which God then gives the sinner shall be with a scorpion, every pain which He inflicts shall be more eager than appetite, more cruel than revenge; every faculty both of soul and body shall have its distinct property, and peculiar torment applied to it, and be directly struck there where it has the quickest, the sharpest, and the tenderest sense of any painful impression…But I shall use no other argument to evince the greatness of their torment but only this, that the devil shall be the instrument of their execution. And surely a mortal enemy will be a dreadful executioner; and the punishment which an infinite justice inflicts by the hands of a implacable malice must needs be intolerable.” Sermons, vii. 143
Thomas Boston, Scottish preacher, 1732
“God will hold sinners with one hand over the pit of hell, while He torments them with the other.” Fourfold State."God shall not pity them but laugh at their calamity. The righteous company in heaven shall rejoice in the execution of God's judgment, and shall sing while the smoke riseth up for ever."
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Very gruesome my friend. I get the feeling sometimes that some are glad that people are going to Hell and will be upset at God if they don't. I pray that the Spirit of Truth will run a check on all of our hearts and reveal what "spirit" we are guided by.
There is a punishment of the wicked taught in the bible,I don't see the unredeemed finding salvation after death,in my own heart I question my own burden for the unregenerate.
We need to preach Jesus Christ and Him crucified to this untoward generation more than ever before.
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People who are always looking for fault,can find it easily all they have to do,is look into their mirror.
There they can find plenty of fault.
The Simpsons, Treehouse of Horror IV, 1993
Homer is sent to hell -- the "Ironic Punishments Division". He is forced to eat all the donuts in the world! (The demon in charge is chagrined, however, when Homer isn't bothered in the least.)
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Very gruesome my friend. I get the feeling sometimes that some are glad that people are going to Hell and will be upset at God if they don't. I pray that the Spirit of Truth will run a check on all of our hearts and reveal what "spirit" we are guided by.
Raven
Hello, my friend,
You are exactly right, Jesus rebuked the apostles for wanting to call down fire on some that did not line up, and His words were, "...you do not know what spirit you are of..."
Just reading those words grieves the every heart that is shaped like Jesus'!
Great to hear from you, blessings to you and all your family.
__________________ For it is written, "As I live, says the Lord every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall give praise to God. (Romans 14:11- NASB)
There is a punishment of the wicked taught in the bible,I don't see the unredeemed finding salvation after death,in my own heart I question my own burden for the unregenerate.
We need to preach Jesus Christ and Him crucified to this untoward generation more than ever before.
Scott,
Why can you not see what the early church saw in the vast majority for the first to six century? It was only at the point of the Rome sword and the twisting of the scriptures by Jerome in the Latin Vulgate that the ED doctrine was forced down the throat of believers.
May all our eyes see the heart of Jesus to redeem all His creation.
__________________ For it is written, "As I live, says the Lord every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall give praise to God. (Romans 14:11- NASB)
54 And when His disciples James and John saw this, they said, “Lord, do You want us to command fire to come down from heaven and consume them, just as Elijah did?”
55 But He turned and rebuked them, and said, “You do not know what manner of spirit you are of. 56 For the Son of Man did not come to destroy men’s lives but to save them.” And they went to another village.
34 But they set their abominations in the house which is called by My name, to defile it. 35 And they built the high places of Baal which are in the Valley of the Son of Hinnom, to cause their sons and their daughters to pass through the fire to Molech, which I did not command them, nor did it come into My mind that they should do this abomination, to cause Judah to sin.’
Will God do what He calls an abomination? I say absolutely not!
__________________ For it is written, "As I live, says the Lord every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall give praise to God. (Romans 14:11- NASB)
54 And when His disciples James and John saw this, they said, “Lord, do You want us to command fire to come down from heaven and consume them, just as Elijah did?”
55 But He turned and rebuked them, and said, “You do not know what manner of spirit you are of. 56 For the Son of Man did not come to destroy men’s lives but to save them.” And they went to another village.
34 But they set their abominations in the house which is called by My name, to defile it. 35 And they built the high places of Baal which are in the Valley of the Son of Hinnom, to cause their sons and their daughters to pass through the fire to Molech, which I did not command them, nor did it come into My mind that they should do this abomination, to cause Judah to sin.’
Will God do what He calls an abomination? I say absolutely not!
And yet:
Matthew 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Matthew 13:41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; 42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
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Matthew 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Matthew 13:41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; 42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
That is exactly what happened in the judgment of Jerusalem in 70 AD. NO eternal damnation here, in Matt 13:41.
That what He will say to the religious hypocrites, in that day, they will endure Ghenna purging to remove the iniquity in them.
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to you and all your family.
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