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Old 07-30-2009, 09:49 AM
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While I cannot go because I am on the West Coast and trying to get well, I would encourage everyone who is in the area to go and hear Daniel Segraves, he is one of the best Theologians in Pentecost. I am sure it will be informative.
I don't get it why are they having two men who do not believe what the other is saying is necessary for salvation teach at the same meetings. The last I heard DS doesn't believe Jesus Name baptism is necessary for salvation.
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Old 07-30-2009, 09:52 AM
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I don't get it why are they having two men who do not believe what the other is saying is necessary for salvation teach at the same meetings. The last I heard DS doesn't believe Jesus Name baptism is necessary for salvation.
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Old 07-30-2009, 10:37 AM
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How do you balance TRUTH and FALSE DOCTRINE???
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How do you balance TRUTH and FALSE DOCTRINE???
Are you accusing Bernard of false doctrine?
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Old 07-31-2009, 08:33 AM
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Are you accusing Bernard of false doctrine?
No I don't know what B really believes for sure. I do know what DS believes.
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How do you balance TRUTH and FALSE DOCTRINE???
Easy! One guy preaches truth for, say, 45 minutes, and the other guy preaches false doctrine for the same amount of time. (Which one is which? You decide! )
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Is DS for or against the standard for outward Holiness?

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Is DS for or against the standard for outward Holiness?
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Is DS for or against the standard for outward Holiness?
I am pretty sure DS's stand on outward holiness is very typical of the UPC. He is the author of a book about the standard of uncut hair.

DS stays in the bible and I think he lets the Bible speak for itself and doesn't necessarily take certain positions just because everyone else does.
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I am pretty sure DS's stand on outward holiness is very typical of the UPC. He is the author of a book about the standard of uncut hair.

DS stays in the bible and I think he lets the Bible speak for itself and doesn't necessarily take certain positions just because everyone else does.
EDIT: I JUST CAME BACK TO THIS THREAD AND REALIZED THAT WHEN I MADE THE POST BELOW I INCORRECTLY THOUGHT WE WERE DISCUSSING DB, NOT DS. I HAVE NOT READ ANY DS BOOKS. PLEASE DISREGARD THE POST BELOW.

Hmmmm....I might have to disagree with your last statement. I remember several decades ago when he first published his book on "holiness" thinking that he was way too smart for some of the applications he extrapolated in that book.

The only thing he actually stood up for as not making sense was facial hair on men. Even then he justified the historical ban on it by connecting it to the hippie culture / rebellion. I was proud he indicated it really didn't apply today.
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