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[Irreligious]

Originally Posted by Timmy

I bet they're not big fans of Romans 13, either.

And it says...."Obey the government, for God is the one who put it there. All governments have been placed in power by God."

It seems pretty simple, doesn't ?

And I Timothy 2:2, what tells us to pray for our leaders, does not include the clause "if they're well-behaved."

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by Irreligious

And it says...."Obey the government, for God is the one who put it there. All governments have been placed in power by God."
It seems pretty simple, doesn't ?

And I Timothy 2:2, what tells us to pray for our leaders, does not include the clause "if they're well-behaved."

Not refuting - just a question.

When the Bible was written did the people "vote" for their leaders or where they placed?

It just seems that "man" has more control now in deciding who is a leader and God is in NO WAY a part of the process.

Know what I mean?

[Irreligious]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

Not refuting - just a question.

When the Bible was written did the people "vote" for their leaders or where they placed?

It just seems that "man" has more control now in deciding who is a leader and God is in NO WAY a part of the process.

Know what I mean?

Good point. Most all governments at that time were placed. But who placed them? Did God directly place or did bloodlines, etc.? The context of Romans 13:1 is that God places by allowing. He allowed it in old times by lineage, coups, and otherwise. He allows in our democracy by voting.

If God-placing only happens in non-democratic ways, then only non-democratic systems have leaders who are placed by God.