You are really making a mountain out of a molehill. Saying that someone "years ago" left a sour taste in your mouth is not "painting him...in the most horrible light."
Sister Alvear explained the context of her statement, regarding a letter that was sent. I don't think anyone could come away from her post thinking anything other than DB may have made an impulsive judgment call. Perhaps he caused an offense that he never made right?
My father made similar mistakes, and he had to eat crow later. It
doesn't make him a bad person--it just means he was young[ish] and impulsive and immature. Once he tried to force the hand of one of his pastors by telling him that he needed to stop his (the pastor's) daughters' fornicating, or "else." LOL!!! The pastor went with "or else" and my father was quickly booted from his position in the church--and as a member. Wrong? Not really....unwise? YEP!!!! He once sided with a well known minister against one of my sisters, and was completely wrong about the decision. My sister was deeply hurt, and later my Dad had to apologize. A lot of damage was done as a result of that bad call.
Ministers make mistakes. They make stupid decisions. That doesn't make them bad, and unless it's presented in a particularly vicious light, I don't see the point in sweeping it under the rug. Maybe Sister Alvear could have worded her post differently, but your reaction doesn't match her post. Normally the AFF doesn't use names in posts (the initial thing, right?), but this thread is about DKB, and so Sister Alvear posted her experience with him, specifically. The first few posts on this thread were much more negative, so why aren't you attacking those? Address the items in those posts.
I'm sure other people have more pleasant experiences to share--and to balance things out.
Miss B, I know what you are saying and I do agree that Sis A may not be in violation of AFF protocol here (although I do know that at times we are told to be careful about naming names), but I think that PO's point is that we do not know enough about this particular situation to be able to accept the characterization that you even make in your post. I obviously don't know anything about this particular situation in Brazil, but I am well enough acquainted with Foreign Missions that I know the complexity of some of these situations. We have dealt with similar situations.
I think it is a stretch to say that DKB insinuated himself into a situation that he knew nothing about because if he knew nothing about the situation, he would not have been able to write the letter in the first place. We have no idea what possible legal issues may have been involved and to what extent he was writing in his lawyerly capacity and not his ministerial capacity.
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So funny!!!! I know of so many mistakes made--by my Dad, and by numerous other ministers. It doesn't make them bad men--they're just men. The reason it doesn't reflect terribly on their character is because its obvious they were mistaken--not malicious.
Sister Alvear didn't make DB out to be a malicious man; she just pointed out that he had made a bad judgment call with her situation--which COULD be relevant to his methods of leadership now--or not.
Once again, this illustrates the problem.. PO is saying that one would read the post and walk away saying that Rev. Bernard made a bad judgement call...without knowing enough about the situation.
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Sister Alvear didn't make DB out to be a malicious man; she just pointed out that he had made a bad judgment call with her situation--which COULD be relevant to his methods of leadership now--or not.
Militant is malicious and if you are paying attention - by this very paragraph in bold - you are stating the "formed" opinion you got from her post. That's what I think is a shame.
Once again, this illustrates the problem.. PO is saying that one would read the post and walk away saying that Rev. Bernard made a bad judgement call...without knowing enough about the situation.
Miss B, I know what you are saying and I do agree that Sis A may not be in violation of AFF protocol here (although I do know that at times we are told to be careful about naming names), but I think that PO's point is that we do not know enough about this particular situation to be able to accept the characterization that you even make in your post. I obviously don't know anything about this particular situation in Brazil, but I am well enough acquainted with Foreign Missions that I know the complexity of some of these situations. We have dealt with similar situations.
I think it is a stretch to say that DKB insinuated himself into a situation that he knew nothing about because if he knew nothing about the situation, he would not have been able to write the letter in the first place. We have no idea what possible legal issues may have been involved and to what extent he was writing in his lawyerly capacity and not his ministerial capacity.
Miss B, I know what you are saying and I do agree that Sis A may not be in violation of AFF protocol here (although I do know that at times we are told to be careful about naming names), but I think that PO's point is that we do not know enough about this particular situation to be able to accept the characterization that you even make in your post. I obviously don't know anything about this particular situation in Brazil, but I am well enough acquainted with Foreign Missions that I know the complexity of some of these situations. We have dealt with similar situations.
I think it is a stretch to say that DKB insinuated himself into a situation that he knew nothing about because if he knew nothing about the situation, he would not have been able to write the letter in the first place. We have no idea what possible legal issues may have been involved and to what extent he was writing in his lawyerly capacity and not his ministerial capacity.
I am pretty sure Texas lawyers have no jurisdiction in Brazil. If he was writing as an attorney then he was practicing law without a license. Are you suggesting he was unethical in his practice of law in Texas?
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Militant is malicious and if you are paying attention - by this very paragraph in bold - you are stating the "formed" opinion you got from her post. That's what I think is a shame.
Actually, I'm not. Since she didn't provide us with copies of the letter, and full information, I have NOT formed an actual opinion. I'm just stating her intent in the context of this thread.
I would NOT, and have NOT posted an actual opinion of his actions, because I haven't read the letter for myself, and heard the full details of the situation. However, in the context of Sister Alvear's post, she did not paint him "in the most horrible light." She pointed out that he made a bad judgment call--in HER estimation--and that it left a bad taste in her mouth.
I'm not agreeing with her assessment, because I have no way to assess the situation.
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abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
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I am pretty sure Texas lawyers have no jurisdiction in Brazil. If he was writing as an attorney then he was practicing law without a license. Are you suggesting he was unethical in his practice of law in Texas?
Sigh...Baron, my point is that the simple fact that he was the one responding to the situation on the behalf of the UPCI may be an indication that there may have been matters of legality involved. I did not say that he filed suit or practiced law. What I am saying is that I have first hand knowledge of how complex these things can be.
There's always more than one side to any situation...and usually in real lif, complex situations they are multi-sided and multi-faceted.
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He once sided with a well known minister against one of my sisters, and was completely wrong about the decision. My sister was deeply hurt, and later my Dad had to apologize. A lot of damage was done as a result of that bad call. 
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