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Originally Posted by OGIA
I hear ya and agree. I was using the term "greasy grace" to apply more to the methodology that some "preachers" use (Beth Moore being the example a few pages back) to convince the lost that they are saved. Seems most of her messages have nothing to do with sacrifice or repentance (which is a form of sacrifice). All I hear these women returning to work talking about is how they were blessed and how they were empowered and how Beth showed them how to live a positive life. And before anyone jumps on that, there's nothing wrong with it. But, "greasy grace" really goes no further. It leaves them stuck in that mindset too many times and someone who has truth has a very hard time breaking that bondage of belief.
But, I guess as long as she's preaching Jesus Christ, there will be some who respond and find this beautiful Apostolic truth!!
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Ogia,
Now that we have run the gamut (lol), I want to especially address the "greasy grace".
How I look at that is - If anyone is teaching what they know or believe to be true for them, than I leave that alone. The Word says, "They that hunger and thirst for righteous shall be filled." Hungering and thirsting are large definitions.
If I had not been raised Catholic, I may not have had an awareness of right or wrong doing in sinning against the Lord. I may have learned the proper way to act in society, but my training wouldn't have opened my mind and heart to know the Lord.
I remember as a child watching "The Ten Commandments" and seeing Moses kneel before that bush. I wanted to know God that way as a child. I wasn't aware until I was filled with His Spirit that it was attainable.
My sister and her husband are Baptist. They both teach Sunday School and are very strict with what their children can view on Video and t.v. is hardly ever something they turn on. She is doing the best she knows. I see her hungering and thirsting and so I wait for the right time. I don't belittle what she has.
To some, I had nothing as a Catholic, but when I left home at 18 I attended church every Sunday. I prayed every night. One night I was so unhappy that I said, "Jesus, please don't get mad at me for not saying my prayers. I just need someone to talk to." I was afraid that God was mad that I didn't address Him and say my Hail Mary's. (lol) My heart was hungry and I knew where to go. I didn't find salvation after that night for 8 more years.
Having said all of that. I can't throw "greasy grace" around with carelessness. It is as bad to them to see "judgment without mercy" as much as we don't want them to settle for less than what we have experienced.
God is the only one that knows the heart of any man. I certainly would never want anyone that doesn't know full truth to ever hear me belittle their experience as I am sure we are in agreement on all these points.
Now, I see people that are not in agreement with keeping standards. Some have left the organization. I have no problem with that. My best friend of 15 years sits next to me in church upholding no dress code but modesty. She cuts her hair and is just as sensitive to the move of God as anyone else. She doesn't try to get me to change and I don't try to get her too, either. We talk about it and respect each other.
I will stand alone before God someday - alone. I owe nothing to anyone, but Jesus Christ.
God bless and thanks for letting me ramble with you.
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