Milk or Meat Sermons?

Jeffrey · #1 10-29-2009, 01:00 PM

Yeah. Back to this sermon: http://kjhouk.wordpress.com/2009/10/...theresurgence/

Listen to what Driscoll says about idols.

notofworks · #2 10-29-2009, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeffrey

Yeah. Back to this sermon: http://kjhouk.wordpress.com/2009/10/...theresurgence/

Listen to what Driscoll says about idols.

Dang it. I was enjoying talking about Chocolate milk. I'm gonna go get some right now!!! It's been a couple hours since my last drink!

MissBrattified · #3 10-29-2009, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeffrey

Yeah. Back to this sermon: http://kjhouk.wordpress.com/2009/10/...theresurgence/

Listen to what Driscoll says about idols.

I'm only 10 minutes in, but so far it's GREAT. I like Mark Driscoll, anyway. He has some great clips on YT.

notofworks · #4 10-29-2009, 04:47 PM

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I'm only 10 minutes in, but so far it's GREAT. I like Mark Driscoll, anyway. He has some great clips on YT.

Doesn't it greatly bother you that he's a trinitarian, a Calvinist, and allows his congregation to dress in a very worldly manner?

Jeffrey · #5 10-29-2009, 05:04 PM

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Doesn't it greatly bother you that he's a trinitarian, a Calvinist, and allows his congregation to dress in a very worldly manner?

Is any of that a problem to you?

The only critical issue to me is Calvinism, and then again its how it fleshes out in his teaching. He doesn't claim to be an orthodox Calvinist. Personally, doesn't matter to me, Calvinism is just as flawed and corrupt a doctrine as the man, John Calvin, was.

But, thankfully, his sermon is not about Calvinism. It's about idols.

Interestingly, he is a tongue-talker.

notofworks · #6 10-29-2009, 05:57 PM

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Is any of that a problem to you?

The only critical issue to me is Calvinism, and then again its how it fleshes out in his teaching. He doesn't claim to be an orthodox Calvinist. Personally, doesn't matter to me, Calvinism is just as flawed and corrupt a doctrine as the man, John Calvin, was.

But, thankfully, his sermon is not about Calvinism. It's about idols.

Interestingly, he is a tongue-talker.

Nah, I was just giving Aunt Bee a little trouble.

I have a hard time with the whole "Tulip" thing, and he's pretty harsh at times, which we've talked about privately. But I saw him recently on Hour of Power and he was really, really good. I get why he's been so successful.

And I didn't know about the tongues! Really? You're sure about that? I'm very surprised. I would assume that it's a private thing and not something that he teaches?

MissBrattified · #7 10-29-2009, 10:35 PM

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Doesn't it greatly bother you that he's a trinitarian, a Calvinist, and allows his congregation to dress in a very worldly manner?

No. Although I don't understand the repeated references to the "trinitarian God of the Bible." LOL! Was it you who said that trinitarians believe in one God? Not ALL of them. Many of them believe in a unity between three distinct deities.

It's a great sermon on idolatry, though.

Jeffrey · #8 10-30-2009, 11:34 AM

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No. Although I don't understand the repeated references to the "trinitarian God of the Bible." LOL! Was it you who said that trinitarians believe in one God? Not ALL of them. Many of them believe in a unity between three distinct deities.

It's a great sermon on idolatry, though.

And what's all this stuff about "Father God?" A very unscriptural reference to God. Do you call his Son Jesus or Jesus Son? Sounds silly.

I think Driscoll definitely sees Jesus as one working in a triune nature through Father, Son and Holy Spirit. They are sold on their creeds, unfortunately, yet he acknowledges that Jesus is the I AM, the Son of God, Divine and the Christ.

rgcraig · #9 10-30-2009, 11:43 AM

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And what's all this stuff about "Father God?" A very unscriptural reference to God. Do you call his Son Jesus or Jesus Son? Sounds silly.

I think Driscoll definitely sees Jesus as one working in a triune nature through Father, Son and Holy Spirit. They are sold on their creeds, unfortunately, yet he acknowledges that Jesus is the I AM, the Son of God, Divine and the Christ.

LOL.....one of my PET PEEVES is "Daddy God" - - oh, I just can't stand that.

That's exactly what Sherri and I were discussing the other day - - can I not stand it because of my background? Is there really anything wrong with it?

All I can think of when I hear it is "baby's daddy" and God isn't my daddy.

Jeffrey · #10 10-30-2009, 11:48 AM

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LOL.....one of my PET PEEVES is "Daddy God" - - oh, I just can't stand that.

That's exactly what Sherri and I were discussing the other day - - can I not stand it because of my background? Is there really anything wrong with it?

All I can think of when I hear it is "baby's daddy" and God isn't my daddy.

It just isn't scriptural. God is the Father. Yes. He is also Abba Father (aka 'daddy God' which really is "daddy father" is they wanted to be literal). Certainly doesn't appeal to a man, and that isn't the most accurate translation from the Greek either.

I'm sure background has some to do with it, but it's just a goofy and shows a perspective of the godhead that I don't agree with. Father God, we just...