Adam Lambert

[n david]

Originally Posted by notofworks

I said "inconsistent" as in liking AI, but not liking a church choir contest. You're as bad on this debate as you were in the New Living Translation argument.

Let's review ...

Originally Posted by notofworks

There are a lot of things that most pentecostals think nothing of but that I would never participate in. For example, overeating. I feel extremely dishonoring to God if I do that. Or a choir contest that's been celebrated here on the forum (yes I know some of you will say that's inconsistent with AI, but just think about it), or faking tongues in a joking way, or flippantly using references to the name of Jesus or the blood of Jesus, or destroying politicians instead of praying for them, or throwing an anti-abortion bumper-sticker in the face of someone who's life has been devastated by abortion.

Originally Posted by n david

The choir contest celebrated here vs AI ... apples vs oranges. Not even close. If you can't see the difference, it continues to beg the question of where your discernment has gone ... especially when you say you're a pastor.

Originally Posted by notofworks

I see the difference!!!! Did you not even read what I wrote. You really, really, need to put me on ignore.

Originally Posted by n david

Do you? I read what you wrote .... here's your quote:

From reading the quote it doesn't look like you see a difference. You stated 1) that you would never participate in it; 2) you want those who feel choir vs AI is apple vs oranges to "just think about it."

So where is the part where you acknowledge the difference?

Originally Posted by notofworks

I said "inconsistent" as in liking AI, but not liking a church choir contest. You're as bad on this debate as you were in the New Living Translation argument.

Again, where do you acknowledge seeing the difference? I see you said "yes I know some of you will say that's inconsistent with AI" but then you added, "but just think about it."

There was nothing noting you seeing a difference between the two. In fact, your statement shows you don't see a difference and you want others (some of you) who do to "just think about it." Because really to you, both are the same.

Try again.

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by n david

Let's review ...

Inconsistent to like one and dislike the other!!!!! Aaaacccckkkkk!!!!! I'm not gonna explain this anymore.

They are VERY different which was my exact point. One is a singing competition to get a recording contract; the other is a competition to see who can praise God the best and do ministry the best. I find that deplorable.

If you disagree, just state your case instead of this stupid beam in the eye malarkey. It doesn't make any sense.

[n david]

Originally Posted by notofworks

They are VERY different which was my exact point. One is a singing competition to get a recording contract; the other is a competition to see who can praise God the best and do ministry the best. I find that deplorable.

a competition to see who can praise God the best and do ministry

I find that deplorable

Wow.

You conduct "Adam adoration sessions" in your church staff meetings; you love a competition which glorifies the individual and promotes all kinds of filth in lyrics and styles ... yet you find a choir competition deplorable?

What kind of church do you pastor and what kind of pastor are you?

I've never met a christian, much less a pastor, who deplores a contest that uplifts the Name of Jesus and creates worship and praise.

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by n david

Wow.

You conduct "Adam adoration sessions" in your church staff meetings; you love a competition which glorifies the individual and promotes all kinds of filth in lyrics and styles ... yet you find a choir competition deplorable?

What kind of church do you pastor and what kind of pastor are you?

I've never met a christian, much less a pastor, who deplores a contest that uplifts the Name of Jesus and creates worship and praise.

"For instance, one person believes it's all right to eat anything. But another believer with a sensitive conscience will eat only vegetables. Those who feel free to eat anything must not look down on those who don't. And those who don't eat certain foods must not condemn those who do, for God has accepted them. Who are you to condemn someone else's servants? They are responsible to the Lord, so let him judge whether they are right or wrong. And with the Lord's help, they will do what is right and will receive his approval." (Romans 14:2-4)

Think what you will. I'm not gonna argue with you about it anymore.

[n david]

Originally Posted by notofworks

"For instance, one person believes it's all right to eat anything. But another believer with a sensitive conscience will eat only vegetables. Those who feel free to eat anything must not look down on those who don't. And those who don't eat certain foods must not condemn those who do, for God has accepted them. Who are you to condemn someone else's servants? They are responsible to the Lord, so let him judge whether they are right or wrong. And with the Lord's help, they will do what is right and will receive his approval." (Romans 14:2-4)

Think what you will. I'm not gonna argue with you about it anymore.

I get it! You have grace that allows you to "feel free to eat [or do] anything" and shame on us who don't believe grace is a license to live like hell and expect to claim Heavens rewards.

Picture is getting clearer ...

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by n david

I get it! You have grace that allows you to "feel free to eat [or do] anything" and shame on us who don't believe grace is a license to live like hell and expect to claim Heavens rewards.

Picture is getting clearer ...

Thanks for your tremendous theological thought, input, and opinion.

[notofworks]

I just heard that Adam's performance on CBS this morning was very good and his mom was there. I'm gonna guess, because of the public outcry, he's doing some serious backpeddling. Hope so, anyway.