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Old 11-25-2009, 01:50 PM
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For the record, I used to post on fcf as "josh" and still had my old account. I am the pastor of FPC of Colorado Springs...I believe everyone has the address by now!

Also, for the record, the length of time between my calling out and the reply to this unfortunate turn of events has nothing to do with testosterone deficiency! Nate was banned so he couldn't come back and clear this up and I have been on a trip with no internet service.

After holinesspk was called out for saying things about a neighboring church, I asked him to delete all references to other churches...and to our church. I asked Pel to delete his quotes. I then talked to holinesspk about the situation and why I don't want anything remotely related to our church put out on discussion boards. During this discussion I happened to mention that I probably know who Pelathais is (I didn't know, but I knew we were acquainted).

The reason I gave holinesspk for not discussing or identifying our church or its members on discussion boards was because of an old situation I don't feel the liberty to discuss here. The person involved in this other situation is a problem of the highest degree...that is sufficient for this explanation. (I will say that it isn't a neighboring pastor, though). Somehow, holinesspk assumed I was describing pelathais and I didn't pick up on that. The unfortunate result was that holinesspk's posting to pelathais was affected by that assumption.

Brother David and I served together many years ago. I have never known him to be anything other than ethical and gentlemanly as related to our church and its members during those times. I left CO shortly before Brother David assumed the leadership of our committee and didn't keep up with him or his whereabouts. Obviously, we have no problem with Bro David at all...except I would obviously disagree with his present stance related to "traditional Pentecostalism!"

Nate is prevented from issuing his apology in person, but we both apologize to Brother David for bringing any cloud upon his character. We at CSFPC have never spoken any accusations against him at all and we regret the unfortunate misunderstanding.



I hope this clears everything up and ya'll can go back to your discussions.
Thank you so much.

Perhaps Brother David would share his email addres with you so that holinesspeaks can send an apology directly to him.
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Old 11-25-2009, 06:11 PM
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Thank you so much.

Perhaps Brother David would share his email address with you so that holinesspeaks can send an apology directly to him.
Thanks Renda, but josh's explanation is sufficient. Nate doesn't owe me any obeisance. And I take back the "slime ball" remarks and apologize for that. holinesspk appears to have been motivated by a misunderstanding and not really playing the "False Accusation" game as it appeared.
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Old 11-26-2009, 11:10 AM
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Thanks Renda, but josh's explanation is sufficient. Nate doesn't owe me any obeisance. And I take back the "slime ball" remarks and apologize for that. holinesspk appears to have been motivated by a misunderstanding and not really playing the "False Accusation" game as it appeared.

Your graciousness is......well, gracious. But even though there was a so-called "misunderstanding", to take a story (which shouldn't have been told in the first place) and assume that it's you, without knowing for sure who it was, is, well, slimeballish to me. And even if he knew who it was, to go public and demean the character of another person just because you disagree with his point of view, is most definitely slimeballish. Personally, I'm sick of Christians who do this to each other.
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