Christmas/Holidays

[NewWine]

Originally Posted by notofworks

You need to read "Pagan Christianity". Hardly anything you do in church is gonna survive.

I don't need to read "Pagan Christianity"; however, I realize that you have offered that as a suggestion, so please provide a summation of the book. I will take it into consideration as I enjoy reading.

To say that "hardly anything you do in church is gonna survive" is poppycock. The work of the church (which is the body of Christ containing many members) does not consist of the building and other material things. Yet, it is that which is intangible; it is the souls that are grafted into the body of Christ. Yes, heaven and earth shall pass away; this is true, however, the Lord clearly says that his words shall not pass away. The church will never die, because the gates of hell shall not prevail against the church. Therefore, because the church will never cease, rather will be caught up, thus they will be rewarded according to their works. "For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works" (Matthew 16:27). So, what the word of the Lord tells me in this scripture is that the work that I do for the Lord on this earth will be recognized and will be rewarded. Also, the church is not a survivor, but we are more than conquerors.

Don't know what wine you've been drinking but it isn't new wine

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by NewWine

I don't need to read "Pagan Christianity"; however, I realize that you have offered that as a suggestion, so please provide a summation of the book. I will take it into consideration as I enjoy reading.

To say that "hardly anything you do in church is gonna survive" is poppycock. The work of the church (which is the body of Christ containing many members) does not consist of the building and other material things. Yet, it is that which is intangible; it is the souls that are grafted into the body of Christ. Yes, heaven and earth shall pass away; this is true, however, the Lord clearly says that his words shall not pass away. The church will never die, because the gates of hell shall not prevail against the church. Therefore, because the church will never cease, rather will be caught up, thus they will be rewarded according to their works. "For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works" (Matthew 16:27). So, what the word of the Lord tells me in this scripture is that the work that I do for the Lord on this earth will be recognized and will be rewarded. Also, the church is not a survivor, but we are more than conquerors.

Don't know what wine you've been drinking but it isn't new wine

Can you explain "poppycock"? I might be offended but need to make sure first.

Well, if you don't need to read the book then you don't need me to summarize it. If you're not interested in learning something, don't worry with it. Ignorance has motivated many things within the Christian Culture. A large amount of what the current Christian culture does, especially the Sunday service habits, are rooted in Paganism. So if you're going to ignore Christmas because of its origins, you may need to be prepared to throw out a lot of stuff.

But never mind. You're not interested.

[NewWine]

My response is the blue font

Originally Posted by notofworks

Can you explain "poppycock"? I might be offended but need to make sure first.

Poppycock = empty talk or writing: nonsense (Websters Definition). I don’t think that you should be offended by the use of poppycock, however, if you are offended than I apologize for offending you.

Well, if you don't need to read the book then you don't need me to summarize it.

There are many books that people including yourself read that are not of necessity; however, they choose to. People make suggestions of reading various writings; watching videos, movies, listen to music, and/or plays; trying various foods/dishes, and those things are not a necessity. Yet, people oblige such suggestions all the time. However, before doing so they take into consideration what it is they are doing. I do not blindly pick up books and start reading them just because someone gave me a suggestion. That may be something that you do (I don’t know), but it certainly is not something that I do. It is my belief and practice as a child of God to find out about something before reading, viewing, or listening to it.

If you're not interested in learning something, don't worry with it.

Anyone that thinks that they are beyond learning is fooling themselves; and that person is by far not me. Another assumptive statement and quite un-necessary; there is no worry on my part. If you knew me would know that I greatly enjoy learning and studying.

Ignorance has motivated many things within the Christian Culture. A large amount of what the current Christian culture does, especially the Sunday service habits, are rooted in Paganism.

This is a subjective statement, because it depends on who is calling themselves a Christian. Furthermore, I do not nor will I subscribe to the ideology that any part of Christianity is rooted in paganism. The reason being Christianity was established in the word of God and it was not and is not pagan.

So if you're going to ignore Christmas because of its origins, you may need to be prepared to throw out a lot of stuff.

Yet again you make another assumptive statement as though you know me. Additionally, this statement assumes that there are things (as you put it “stuff”) that I am holding onto that is not godly. You can keep that to yourself.

But never mind. You're not interested.

What you have here is comprehension conflict. I stated “I didn’t need to read the book”, not that I didn’t want to read the book. Your entire response is based on the premise that I stated I didn’t want to read the book; which is not the case. Clearly you read over this statement I made so I will post it again. “I realize that you have offered that as a suggestion, so please provide a summation of the book. I will take it into consideration as I enjoy reading”. If you are not willing to provide a summation of the book than don’t refer the book, that is quite disingenuous on your part.

Aquila ~ Thank you for the summation of “Pagan Christianity”

[mizpeh]

Originally Posted by NewWine

My response is the blue font




Aquila ~ Thank you for the summation of “Pagan Christianity”

If the subject interests you, Amazon.com, usually has a wide range of opinions from those who have read the book. Sometimes if there is only one or two opinions, I have to wonder if they were written by friends of the author and therefore biased.

This book received 292 reviews. Very impressive. There is also a function on Amazon that allows you to look into the book at the table of contents and read a allotted portion of the text. A trip to the book store might be in order if you want to look at it more before you buy it. But if you're an avid reader, you probably know all of this.

http://www.amazon.com/Pagan-Christia.../dp/141431485X

[NewWine]

Originally Posted by mizpeh

If the subject interests you, Amazon.com, usually has a wide range of opinions from those who have read the book. Sometimes if there is only one or two opinions, I have to wonder if they were written by friends of the author and therefore biased.

This book received 292 reviews. Very impressive. There is also a function on Amazon that allows you to look into the book at the table of contents and read a allotted portion of the text. A trip to the book store might be in order if you want to look at it more before you buy it. But if you're an avid reader, you probably know all of this.

http://www.amazon.com/Pagan-Christia.../dp/141431485X

Thank you very much for the link. I actually just found two books entitled Pagan Christianity; and read some of the reviews. If I don't find it at a local book store I will definitely be ordering it from Amazon. I just called my father and read some of the reviews to him, and he is wanting to read the book.