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[notofworks]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Let's categorize it as praise. And let's examine it bit by bit:

Singing.
Playing music.
Dancing.
Lifting hands.
Being joyfully noisy.

Looks like praise to me.

Which parts do you feel are not praise?

I feel an absolutely ZERO environment of "Praise" in that video. I don't believe singing makes one a praiser (Madonna). Nor playing music (Slash). Nor dancing (Michael Jackson). Nor lifting hands (someone being arrested).

No wait, that wasn't a good comparison. Let's try that again.

Nor lifting hands (someone's team just scored). Nor being joyfully noisy (every time I win at Monopoly).

Like the bible says, "Just because it walks like a duck, looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, doesn't mean it's a duck."

What I saw in that video was attention-getting, self-indulgent, physical activity that completely left Jesus out of the process. I saw a culture of habitual noise that attracts attention to individuals rather than Jesus Christ. When we "Praise", we draw attention to Jesus, not to ourselves.

So which parts did I feel wasn't praise? Well, all of it, I suppose.

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by notofworks

I feel an absolutely ZERO environment of "Praise" in that video. I don't believe singing makes one a praiser (Madonna). Nor playing music (Slash). Nor dancing (Michael Jackson). Nor lifting hands (someone being arrested).

No, but if you're directing that music, singing or dancing toward God, then I think it qualifies.

No wait, that wasn't a good comparison. Let's try that again.

Nor lifting hands (someone's team just scored). Nor being joyfully noisy (every time I win at Monopoly).

Like the bible says, "Just because it walks like a duck, looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, doesn't mean it's a duck."

What I saw in that video was attention-getting, self-indulgent, physical activity that completely left Jesus out of the process. I saw a culture of habitual noise that attracts attention to individuals rather than Jesus Christ. When we "Praise", we draw attention to Jesus, not to ourselves.

So which parts did I feel wasn't praise? Well, all of it, I suppose.

Obviously you have a different perspective, NOW, and one I completely disagree with. Praying doesn't equate praise, either--unless you're praying to God.

You're cynically applying motives to people you don't know. "attention getting" "self-indulgent" "...completely left Jesus out of the process."

Really? How do you know they're singing and playing just to get attention? How do you know it's self-indulgent? What makes you think they left Jesus out of the process? You would have to be inside their heads to know those things, and you obviously aren't. Just because something doesn't appeal to you doesn't mean it lacks spiritual meaning.

Frankly, only applying spiritual meaning to the types of praise that appeal to you personally is the epitome of self-indulgence.

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

No, but if you're directing that music, singing or dancing toward God, then I think it qualifies.



Obviously you have a different perspective, NOW, and one I completely disagree with. Praying doesn't equate praise, either--unless you're praying to God.

You're cynically applying motives to people you don't know. "attention getting" "self-indulgent" "...completely left Jesus out of the process."

Really? How do you know they're singing and playing just to get attention? How do you know it's self-indulgent? What makes you think they left Jesus out of the process? You would have to be inside their heads to know those things, and you obviously aren't. Just because something doesn't appeal to you doesn't mean it lacks spiritual meaning.

Frankly, only applying spiritual meaning to the types of praise that appeal to you personally is the epitome of self-indulgence.

But you're condemning me for doing the same thing you're doing yourself. You aren't inside their heads either but you've draw the conclusion that they are praising.

Bottom line is, you think it's ok, I don't. I don't believer there's any possible way for that demonstration to pass the very simple I Corinthians 14 "Don't do things that will make people think you're insane" rule, and I believe that if something is being done that violates scriptural principle, it cannot be to God or of God, and if it is not to God or of God, it is of the flesh, and therefore, not praise.

[mizpeh]

Originally Posted by notofworks

But you're condemning me for doing the same thing you're doing yourself. You aren't inside their heads either but you've draw the conclusion that they are praising.

Bottom line is, you think it's ok, I don't. I don't believer there's any possible way for that demonstration to pass the very simple I Corinthians 14 "Don't do things that will make people think you're insane" rule, and I believe that if something is being done that violates scriptural principle, it cannot be to God or of God, and if it is not to God or of God, it is of the flesh, and therefore, not praise.

Instead of being a "Micah", why don't you let God be the judge of what passes for praise and worship?

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by mizpeh

Instead of being a "Micah", why don't you let God be the judge of what passes for praise and worship?

You know what's funny, I say that I like Adam Lambert's singing and get ripped repeatedly and even told that I'm not fit for the office of pastor because of my inability to clearly articulate what's right and what's wrong. So here, I clearly do express what I think is right and wrong.

And I'm called a "Judge."