QUESTION:Anyone heard of this singer?? PLEASE Let - Page 12

*AQuietPlace* · #**111** 03-09-2010, 11:17 PM

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Here is a youtube video of Jaime Paul singing a jazz version of "Poor Wayfairing Stranger" at Christ Church Nashvillle March 7,2010.

Won't get you Pennycostals jumping up and down like mexican jumping beans but still a great song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzbqypaZC8w

Love it!

mizpeh · #**112** 03-10-2010, 04:04 AM

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Love it!

mizpeh · #**113** 03-10-2010, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by notofworks

I think this might open a door for a discussion on what, exactly, is "praise" and/or "worship." Some would suggest that almost "anything goes" as long as the participant sees it as worship. However, most all would agree that the Kentucky pentecostal culture, that to this day, brings snakes to church and plays with them, is not worship. So I believe we're allowed to express our opinion on what may, or may not, be worship.

And for me, what I'm watching in that video is not worship. Not at all.

Let me preface this by saying that I haven't watched the video in the opening post. I was responding to Ed's post.

As for praise and worship, we have very clear examples of what is acceptable to the Lord in the word of God. Lifting holy hands, making a joyful noise, dancing with all of our might, singing, clapping hands, shouting, musical instruments, choirs, standing, kneeling....emotional, from the soul praise and adoration.

MissBrattified · #**114** 03-10-2010, 08:55 AM

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...And for me, what I'm watching in that video is not worship. Not at all.

Let's categorize it as praise. And let's examine it bit by bit:

Singing.
Playing music.
Dancing.
Lifting hands.
Being joyfully noisy.

Looks like praise to me.

Which parts do you feel are not praise?

notofworks · #**115** 03-10-2010, 11:47 AM

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Let's categorize it as praise. And let's examine it bit by bit:

Singing.
Playing music.
Dancing.
Lifting hands.
Being joyfully noisy.

Looks like praise to me.

Which parts do you feel are not praise?

I feel an absolutely ZERO environment of "Praise" in that video. I don't believe singing makes one a praiser (Madonna). Nor playing music (Slash). Nor dancing (Michael Jackson). Nor lifting hands (someone being arrested).

No wait, that wasn't a good comparison. Let's try that again.

Nor lifting hands (someone's team just scored). Nor being joyfully noisy (every time I win at Monopoly).

Like the bible says, "Just because it walks like a duck, looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, doesn't mean it's a duck."

What I saw in that video was attention-getting, self-indulgent, physical activity that completely left Jesus out of the process. I saw a culture of habitual noise that attracts attention to individuals rather than Jesus Christ. When we "Praise", we draw attention to Jesus, not to ourselves.

So which parts did I feel wasn't praise? Well, all of it, I suppose.

MissBrattified · #**116** 03-10-2010, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by notofworks

I feel an absolutely ZERO environment of "Praise" in that video. I don't believe singing makes one a praiser (Madonna). Nor playing music (Slash). Nor dancing (Michael Jackson). Nor lifting hands (someone being arrested).

No, but if you're directing that music, singing or dancing toward God, then I think it qualifies.

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No wait, that wasn't a good comparison. Let's try that again.

Nor lifting hands (someone's team just scored). Nor being joyfully noisy (every time I win at Monopoly).

Like the bible says, "Just because it walks like a duck, looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, doesn't mean it's a duck."

What I saw in that video was attention-getting, self-indulgent, physical activity that completely left Jesus out of the process. I saw a culture of habitual noise that attracts attention to individuals rather than Jesus Christ. When we "Praise", we draw attention to Jesus, not to ourselves.

So which parts did I feel wasn't praise? Well, all of it, I suppose.

Obviously you have a different perspective, NOW, and one I completely disagree with. Praying doesn't equate praise, either--unless you're praying to God.

You're cynically applying motives to people you don't know. "attention getting" "self-indulgent" "...completely left Jesus out of the process."

Really? How do you know they're singing and playing just to get attention? How do you know it's self-indulgent? What makes you think they left Jesus out of the process? You would have to be inside their heads to know those things, and you obviously aren't. Just because something doesn't appeal to you doesn't mean it lacks spiritual meaning.

Frankly, only applying spiritual meaning to the types of praise that appeal to you personally is the epitome of self-indulgence.

notofworks · #**117** 03-10-2010, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MissBrattified

No, but if you're directing that music, singing or dancing toward God, then I think it qualifies.

Obviously you have a different perspective, NOW, and one I completely disagree with. Praying doesn't equate praise, either--unless you're praying to God.

You're cynically applying motives to people you don't know. "attention getting" "self-indulgent" "...completely left Jesus out of the process."

Really? How do you know they're singing and playing just to get attention? How do you know it's self-indulgent? What makes you think they left Jesus out of the process? You would have to be inside their heads to know those things, and you obviously aren't. Just because something doesn't appeal to you doesn't mean it lacks spiritual meaning.

Frankly, only applying spiritual meaning to the types of praise that appeal to you personally is the epitome of self-indulgence.

But you're condemning me for doing the same thing you're doing yourself. You aren't inside their heads either but you've draw the conclusion that they are praising.

Bottom line is, you think it's ok, I don't. I don't believer there's any possible way for that demonstration to pass the very simple I Corinthians 14 "Don't do things that will make people think you're insane" rule, and I believe that if something is being done that violates scriptural principle, it cannot be to God or of God, and if it is not to God or of God, it is of the flesh, and therefore, not praise.

dizzyde · #**118** 03-10-2010, 12:24 PM

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Whatever. I know Mark and I like him. Simple as that. If I were still making the UPC rounds, I'd be hoping he were playing at the event I was attending. And as great musicians go, he was always nice and cooperative with me. Not all great musicians are, and I like Mark.

Furthermore, Ed isn't my "opponent". I haven't said anything to him and he hasn't said anything to me. I don't really care for what he posted, but he's not my "opponent." Do you see everything as a competition?

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Thanks!

If ya'll have never gotten to hear NofWs voice, it's one the best i've ever heard!

You've still got it after all these years too!

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Well thanks again! Anything that glorifies God is A-ok on my list.
I'm slowly introducing some contemporary to my church and they are loving it!
BTW, they say your singing and voice was just incredible at your mom's home going!

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You are UNREAL!!! How in the world do you know who I am??