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Old 03-22-2010, 12:33 PM
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The universe is the result of happenstance. The right conditions developed over time and our universe was the result of a "big bang" not a "responsible person". One day it will all fizzle out and perhaps contract and explode again. The right conditions for life as we know it to develop may not exist in the next 30 billion big bangs.



We are alone in the universe and suriving so far. At least until a religious nut blows us up to fulfill some sort of obscure prophecy believed by their religion.
You didn't answer my question.

Is it possible for you to live alone and survive, or do we need another to fulfill the future (creation) of men?
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I'm preparing my concession speech.

You better! He kicked your fanny!

Really though, I get it and I'm certain you do, as well.
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No higher power exists.
Hope that changes, else there will be a rude awakening some day.

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...you're understood, respected, and accepted by me.
Unfortunately, this won't be enough...
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Hope that changes, else there will be a rude awakening some day.


Unfortunately, this won't be enough...
So it's all about the "rude awakening" isn't it? Turn or burn. Holy Ghost or hell. Get right or get left. Got Jesus? It's hell without him.

Yes, let's approach a person who has lost their faith, struggling with the meaning of it all, and hit him straight in the gut with the "Hell punch". That'll straighten him out!!
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I grew up and accepted the cold hard facts. It takes more integrety to be honest about this than to hide behind religious cliches and charades.
Your entire statement above is cliché.

You must have employed some sort of charade as well to convince yourself that nihilism is a "cold hard fact." You are simply stating a belief here. Perhaps the charade is the idea of your own "superior integrity?"
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So it's all about the "rude awakening" isn't it? Turn or burn. Holy Ghost or hell. Get right or get left. Got Jesus? It's hell without him.

Yes, let's approach a person who has lost their faith, struggling with the meaning of it all, and hit him straight in the gut with the "Hell punch". That'll straighten him out!!
Whatever works, man. Whatever works.

(Not that it would! )
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Re: Noah and the Ark

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So it's all about the "rude awakening" isn't it? Turn or burn. Holy Ghost or hell. Get right or get left. Got Jesus? It's hell without him.

Yes, let's approach a person who has lost their faith, struggling with the meaning of it all, and hit him straight in the gut with the "Hell punch". That'll straighten him out!!
That is how it usually was in regards to leaving our specific church (regardless of whether or not you were leaving to join another -in this case UPC, that just happened to be more convenient). It wasn't even about losing ones faith.... it was about nothing but church membership.
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That is how it usually was in regards to leaving our specific church (regardless of whether or not you were leaving to join another -in this case UPC, that just happened to be more convenient). It wasn't even about losing ones faith.... it was about nothing but church membership.
Self-preservation, in other words.
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SlowFade, I respect your position and understand how you've arrived where you are. I can't deny that I've been close. So you're understood, respected, and accepted by me.
What prevented you from accepting reality?
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Old 03-22-2010, 02:45 PM
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You didn't answer my question.

Is it possible for you to live alone and survive, or do we need another to fulfill the future (creation) of men?
There isn't a future "creation" of men. There is just a biological reproductive drive that will generate more offspring. We developed to need a mate for reproduction. Many living things don't need male and female to reproduce.
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