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Old 04-01-2010, 10:09 PM
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I don't see that it's saying repentance IS a work. "they should repent and turn to God" AND "do works meet for repentance."

The good works are caused by repentance, therefore they are in agreement with the nature of true repentance. The NKJ says "befitting" of repentance.
Yes, I agree with that. "...and also among the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works and live lives consistent with and worthy of their repentance."

I think that you have to, also, consciously repent (think differently). That is a work (deed) and something we are engaged in. I think that if you are morally feeling compunction (sense of guilt), you are going to have your mental faculties involved. Therefore, it is a work. There are no free passes into the Kingdom.
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Yes, I agree with that. "...and also among the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works and live lives consistent with and worthy of their repentance."

I think that you have to, also, consciously repent (think differently). That is a work (deed) and something we are engaged in. I think that if you are morally feeling compunction (sense of guilt), you are going to have your mental faculties involved. Therefore, it is a work. There are no free passes into the Kingdom.
I am just not ready to say that myself. I would think it much more appropriate to say it is the work of the Spirit which I simply yield to. The yielding is not so much an intellectual decision as it is the inner man receiving the message... no "works" involved. "God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure."

For it is God who is producing in you both the desire and the ability to do what pleases him. ISV
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I am just not ready to say that myself. I would think it much more appropriate to say it is the work of the Spirit. "God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure."

For it is God who is producing in you both the desire and the ability to do what pleases him. ISV
Yes, I also agree, except, you have to be willing to comply. That is engaging in an act. He isn't doing all of the work alone. We are working together in unity.

It's just coming across that nothing is being done or demanded of our part. But that isn't true.

1 Peter 4:17 "For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?"

Action is required to be saved.

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