The Cross of Christ Alone Can Save

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by TheLegalist

I am not your judge God is. I believe the Spirit will manifest/pour out himself. Don't know you nor your story and even if I did doesn't matter as it's God who does the work not us. Can you be under the covenant of Christ without baptism? No! Did the Spirit manifest his acceptance to you? obviously no thus as far as I know. Did you receive the HS when you believed as Paul asked in Acts 19? It's not about blind faith one has but knowing by manifestation without question of witness. One cannot ask that question if blind faith of reception is what Paul was thinking.

Nooooooooooo.......please don't resort to the "God is the judge" speak. Come on, either stand for your position or don't. Either it's really important or it's not.

I have intense faith in Christ and my life is centered around Jesus. I believe I have the Holy Spirit in my life based a scripture. But I have not, and have absolutely no intention, to follow your formula. While I was baptized in Jesus' name, I do not baptize entirely that way.

So how much do you believe in your position? Do you believe in it enough to tell me that I will not be in heaven? And to make it easier, I'll add an answer to choose from.

Question:
Based on what I've said, will I be in heaven?

Answer:
a) Yes.
b) No.
c) I'm not sure.

[TheLegalist]

Originally Posted by notofworks

Nooooooooooo.......please don't resort to the "God is the judge" speak. Come on, either stand for your position or don't. Either it's really important or it's not.

I have intense faith in Christ and my life is centered around Jesus. I believe I have the Holy Spirit in my life based a scripture. But I have not, and have absolutely no intention, to follow your formula. While I was baptized in Jesus' name, I do not baptize entirely that way.

So how much do you believe in your position? Do you believe in it enough to tell me that I will not be in heaven? And to make it easier, I'll add an answer to choose from.

Question:
Based on what I've said, will I be in heaven?

Answer:
a) Yes.
b) No.
c) I'm not sure.

I have already answered your question. post 503 and I did not dodge. God is your judge in the present. Have you received the HS since or when you believed?

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by TheLegalist

I have already answered your question. post 503 and I did not dodge. God is your judge in the present. Have you received the HS since or when you believed?

But when I ask, point-blank, if I'm going to heaven, you won't answer.

Yes, I absolutely have been filled with the Holy Spirit as defined by scripture.

[TheLegalist]

Originally Posted by notofworks

But when I ask, point-blank, if I'm going to heaven, you won't answer.

Yes, I absolutely have been filled with the Holy Spirit as defined by scripture.

was it evidenced as Acts 2 for example "that we can see and hear"?

please explain "defined by scripture" and what that involves?

what do you not understand about "no" in 503? LOL!

YOU SAID...

"Aside from any other things that must be present, can a person make it to heaven that has not repented or been baptized by immersion in water, or been filled with the Holy Spirit as evidence by speaking in other tongues?

Yes? No?"


I SAID...

I would say no...

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by TheLegalist

was it evidenced as Acts 2 for example "that we can see and hear"?

please explain "defined by scripture" and what that involves?

Ephesians 1:13
I John 4:15
John 7:39.

Yes, people have seen and heard it.

[TheLegalist]

Originally Posted by notofworks

Ephesians 1:13
I John 4:15
John 7:39.

Yes, people have seen and heard it.

ROFL

...you TOTALLY ignored the points of ACTS 19 and throw scriptures in about "believed".... seriously you can't answer the point of Acts 19 or Act 8 of people that HAD ALREADY BELIEVED and NOT RECEIVED and those of which Paul asked that DID THEY receive since they believed thus know. Not by confessing with mouth which anyone could do and never be changed but God's manifesting presence of acceptance. How in the world you bring up those in relation to my point is insane and ignoring what has been said.

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by TheLegalist

ROFL

...you TOTALLY ignored the points of ACTS 19 and throw scriptures in about "believed".... seriously you can't answer the point of Acts 19 or Act 8 of people that HAD ALREADY BELIEVED and NOT RECEIVED and those of which Paul asked that DID THEY receive since they believed thus know. Not by confessing with mouth which anyone could do and never be changed but God's manifesting presence of acceptance. How in the world you bring up those in relation to my point is insane and ignoring what has been said.

I'll add "Insane" to the long list of names I've been called on AFF. You asked if I'd received the Holy Spirit and I answered it so enjoy your roll on the floor!

NOTE: I just checked my list of names I've been called and someone's already called me, "Insane." Can you think of something a little more original?