The Cross of Christ Alone Can Save

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Well I tried explaining that to you at the start, and you could not get any further than reading "You are not getting what I am saying." That is why I said you surely do not agree with God condoning sin. How else can I tell you that you must not have gotten my point than saying you must not have gotten my point? lol

No. I am saying you must think God condones sin.

No stretch at all. It's just you will not let me explain myself to you.

No, it's just you would not read past, "You're not getting my point," when I said the same thing in every explanation I tried to give you. Your A.D.D. hindered you from reading that far.

Well, if you would read all I explained, you would know that I only described repentance. I said in my first explanation that I MEANT I WOULD NOT REPENT. And its a two way street. You can have audacity, and no one else can? You had the audacity to say I preach salvation by works when I was only describing repentance. Let's all say "OOOPS!"

As Ronald Reagan said to several time to then-President Carter, "There you go again." In my attempt to wrap it up, we've entered the theological twilight zone again.

Yes, you are correct that I believe that you believe in salvation by works and you don't believe that you believe that. You can deny 'til the cows come home, and I believe I hear them mooing, but if you believe that you get rid of sin, and then and ONLY then, get saved you believe what you believe, and that is, salvation by works. Like I said before, I don't know of an orthodox Christian denomination that proclaims in their statement of faith, "We believe in salvation by works" so it's ok, Mike....no one thinks they believe it. But if one says that HE did something and as a result, got saved....well, it just is what it is. Sorry.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by notofworks

But if one says that HE did something and as a result, got saved....well, it just is what it is. Sorry.

Yeah, like he REPENTED, and got saved. Salvation by works. Riigghhht.

Sorry, there is DO we must DO.

Acts 2:37-38 KJV Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do? (38) Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Acts 10:6 KJV He lodgeth with one Simon a tanner, whose house is by the sea side: he shall tell thee what thou oughtest to do.

The problem is some cannot distinguish between "saving works" to get faith, and SAVING FAITH "THAT WORKS".

Knowing that all that I have been trying to say was that I HAD TO REPENT before I could get the Holy Ghost, makes your words, as far as I am concerned, sound like you believe repentance does not have to be done in order to be saved. God saves us in our sins, and those sins do not have to be repented of. If repentance does not involve letting go of sins on our parts, then I have no clue what you think repentance actually is.

Sorry. I do not accept a "repentless" Gospel.

If repentance is not something that involves a releasing of sins, then what is it? lol

That idea sounds like the idea that an Assembly of God pastor proposed when he was shocked to think people still believed they had to repent in order to be saved.

So we're at loggerheads. You will not believe I deny salvation by works, and I will not believe you deny a repentless gospel. So let's carry on from here. Case closed between us!