Sister that would be the same thing as what Jesus spoke about in Mat 5:28.
To think you were with any other man while being with your husband is spiritual adultry. Fantasy starts in the mind, but sooner than later oppurtunity makes a way for the fantasy to become physical fact.
Are you arguing that a married couple role playing is sinful and immoral? Just wanted to be clear.
If someone was doing something like that all they needed to do was stop.
Asking God to help us to stop, is like asking God to do something against our will. The answer from God would be...to just stop it. Being with a spouse while thoughts are on others is due to being not in love with the one your with. If John doesn't love Mary, John is going to let his mind wander. If Mary doesn't like John, then her mind is going to be on the paper back heros.
The good ol' will. Doh! Jesus didn't even have to die. We could "will" our way to righteousness.
Love one another, and then you won't sin against each other.
Children cannot pick their parents, what they get is what they get. That's too bad sometimes. Because mommy and daddys should be adult enough to at least get their act together especially for the children. Overcoming is through prayer and fasting. Dedication to God would go hand and hand to dedication to spouse and children. If a person cannot be dedicated to the person[s] he or she can see, how can they say they are dedicated to the God they cannot see?
What is the topic again?
In Jesus name
Are you arguing that a married couple role playing is sinful and immoral? Just wanted to be clear.
You still haven't proved how it is normal, let alone sinful.
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The good ol' will. Doh! Jesus didn't even have to die. We could "will" our way to righteousness.
Love one another, and then you won't sin against each other.
What are you talking about here? What do you mean "will" your way to righteousness? How about understanding if a man and his wife think that porn is a good thing to spice up a marriage, will only find out that someone's feelings are going to get hurt in the long run. Role playing my be what one side is into, and the weaker side may be coerced into, but after it's all said and done someone is going to be adversely affected. So how can that be a good thing? Usually, it's the knuckle head husband who wants the role playing, and the poor woman feels the pressure to comply with her bone head ol man.
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What is the topic again?
I guess how you believe that Apostolic Pentecostal Holiness people should be super freaks behind doors?
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You still haven't proved how it is normal, let alone sinful.
You want me to prove role-playing and sexual games are normal? Where do you live? Also, I'm not proving they are sinful, that was your case. Not sure what you meant here.
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What are you talking about here? What do you mean "will" your way to righteousness? How about understanding if a man and his wife think that porn is a good thing to spice up a marriage, will only find out that someone's feelings are going to get hurt in the long run. Role playing my be what one side is into, and the weaker side may be coerced into, but after it's all said and done someone is going to be adversely affected. So how can that be a good thing? Usually, it's the knuckle head husband who wants the role playing, and the poor woman feels the pressure to comply with her bone head ol man.
I'm talking about the idea that some think if you just "will" hard enough, you can be righteous. It's amusing, sorry.
As far as saying it's all the knucklehead husband:
1) No one should participate in anything if both parties aren't comfortable. Love and consideration here is most important.
2) You don't give women enough credit. I can't speak for other's wives... but, I think you have a dim picture of female sexuality. Or maybe my perception is just too bright. Don't know.
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I guess how you believe that Apostolic Pentecostal Holiness people should be super freaks behind doors?
YES! Well... if they want to. But some on here suggest its sinful.
I guess how you believe that Apostolic Pentecostal Holiness people should be super freaks behind doors?
If it's behind closed doors with one's spouse where is the condemnation?
Perhaps we need to establish a set of rules for married couples govern their bedroom behaviors by.
Personally... I feel it should be a loving, and sometimes playful, celebration. There is no condemnation if both parties are happy with their love play.
If it's behind closed doors with one's spouse where is the condemnation?
Perhaps we need to establish a set of rules for married couples govern their bedroom behaviors by.
Personally... I feel it should be a loving, and sometimes playful, celebration. There is no condemnation if both parties are happy with their love play.
Yep. As long as it's OK with God, that is. (Still waiting on that list! )
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Also, I'm not proving they are sinful, that was your case. Not sure what you meant here. 
Well... if they want to. But some on here suggest its sinful.
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