Question about the rapture!

jfrog · #1 05-19-2010, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne

But Jesus DID give permission in this case knowing that they all had sin in their lives. But for a NORMAL Christian who is sinless, would it not have been OK? After all, He DID give the go ahead.......

Jesus was sinless and he didn't stone her. Apparently his go ahead wasn't really a go ahead but a simple way of defusing the crowd by getting them to think about all the wrongs that they had done.

RandyWayne · #2 05-19-2010, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jfrog

Jesus was sinless and he didn't stone her. Apparently his go ahead wasn't really a go ahead but a simple way of defusing the crowd by getting them to think about all the wrongs that they had done.

I know I know. Jesus KNEW that all the woman's accusers had sin in their lives so there would be no takers to his offer. BUT, we have some here who have said that a NORMAL Christian can and does lead a sinless life (with the occasional shortcomings -which should be few and far between).

jfrog · #3 05-19-2010, 01:59 PM

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I know I know. Jesus KNEW that all the woman's accusers had sin in their lives so there would be no takers to his offer. BUT, we have some here who have said that a NORMAL Christian can and does lead a sinless life (with the occasional shortcomings -which should be few and far between).

I think they agree that there is a time for mercy... they just find that time to come about far less often than the rest of us

jfrog · #4 05-19-2010, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne

I know I know. Jesus KNEW that all the woman's accusers had sin in their lives so there would be no takers to his offer. BUT, we have some here who have said that a NORMAL Christian can and does lead a sinless life (with the occasional shortcomings -which should be few and far between).

Here's a question for you. If Jesus hadn't been there and they had stoned the women would that have been wrong?

RandyWayne · #5 05-19-2010, 02:27 PM

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Here's a question for you. If Jesus hadn't been there and they had stoned the women would that have been wrong?

What is funny is that quite a few NORMAL (and thus sinless) Christians DO "stone" people in a spiritual sense and feel completely justified in it and probably pray (out loud for all to hear of course) about how thankful that they are not like the person they felt obligated to stone.

Aquila · #6 05-19-2010, 02:36 PM

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Here's a question for you. If Jesus hadn't been there and they had stoned the women would that have been wrong?

Yes. Because the Bible states that she was caught in the very act of adultery. The Law demanded that both the man and the woman invovled be put to death. You'll notice no man was on trial with her. In executing her they would have broken the Law by not truly keeping it, using it as an instrument to commit murder.

Timmy · #7 05-19-2010, 03:34 PM

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Yes. Because the Bible states that she was caught in the very act of adultery. The Law demanded that both the man and the woman invovled be put to death. You'll notice no man was on trial with her. In executing her they would have broken the Law by not truly keeping it, using it as an instrument to commit murder.

So, killing only one instead of both would have been murder?

Aquila · #8 05-20-2010, 07:41 AM

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So, killing only one instead of both would have been murder?

It wouldn't have fulfilled the law.

Of course this was all a trap to trap Jesus. The Pharisees didn't really want to see her die. They wanted Jesus to say that she should die so that they could accuse him to the Romans, because under Roman law they were forbidden to perform or order executions. The Romans would have brought Jesus up on charges of murder or of unlawfully ordering an execution.

Timmy · #9 05-20-2010, 08:27 AM

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It wouldn't have fulfilled the law.

Of course this was all a trap to trap Jesus. The Pharisees didn't really want to see her die. They wanted Jesus to say that she should die so that they could accuse him to the Romans, because under Roman law they were forbidden to perform or order executions. The Romans would have brought Jesus up on charges of murder or of unlawfully ordering an execution.

I see, thanks.

jfrog · #10 05-20-2010, 09:10 AM

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It wouldn't have fulfilled the law.

Of course this was all a trap to trap Jesus. The Pharisees didn't really want to see her die. They wanted Jesus to say that she should die so that they could accuse him to the Romans, because under Roman law they were forbidden to perform or order executions. The Romans would have brought Jesus up on charges of murder or of unlawfully ordering an execution.

I've never heard that one before.

By the way it would have been lawful for them to stone her. Just because the man was elusive and escaped capture (Jesus did this many times) does not mean that they couldn't have fulfilled the law to the best of their ability. Of course you are going to paint it as they just let him go. There is nothing to indicate such a conspiracy. The simplest explanation is that he avoided capture which seemed to have been quite common. Notice all the times Jesus avoided capture.