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Old 05-20-2010, 10:49 AM
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Re: Are Trinitarians Saved?

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Belief in the Trinity doesn't automatically ........ anyone.

Belief in the Oneness view doesn't automatically save anyone.


The same folks who work overtime to keep folks out of Heaven forget that the only way they are going themselves is out of the kindness of someone else-- that is if they themselves are even going.
There are some who are working overtime to keep others out of heaven to justify their own shortcomings...but there are also others who are working overtime because they believe others will perish without hearing the gospel. Only Jesus knows the truth but if I wholeheartedly believe and fail to share it places me in the same box as the ones keeping others out. I'm speaking of the oneness/trinity issue which I believe to be a salvation one.
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There are some who are working overtime to keep others out of heaven to justify their own shortcomings...but there are also others who are working overtime because they believe others will perish without hearing the gospel. Only Jesus knows the truth but if I wholeheartedly believe and fail to share it places me in the same box as the ones keeping others out. I'm speaking of the oneness/trinity issue which I believe to be a salvation one.


Joey,

Sincerely, you believe that Holy Spirit filled Trinitarians are going to hell?

So what will God do-- let them live Holy Spirit led lives and right before their death, remove the Holy Spirit from them so that they go to hell, void of the Spirit of God?

Or do you believe that these genuinely Holy Spirit filled Trinitarians will go to hell, while filled with the Holy Spirit?
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Old 05-20-2010, 12:29 PM
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Joey,

Sincerely, you believe that Holy Spirit filled Trinitarians are going to hell?

So what will God do-- let them live Holy Spirit led lives and right before their death, remove the Holy Spirit from them so that they go to hell, void of the Spirit of God?

Or do you believe that these genuinely Holy Spirit filled Trinitarians will go to hell, while filled with the Holy Spirit?
I believe Jesus name baptism is necessary in salvation...however I don't believe that alone will get you to heaven...so my answer would be a yes as I read the word of God...repentance, Jesus name baptism, Holy Ghost enfilling are the first steps...then we are judged from the book of life by our works. There are plenty of Acts 2:38 believers whose work is sitting on a pew being critical that will be judged by those works. In judgement I cannot give an answer to the works...but obedience to the word in the issue of baptism I only see one way.
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