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Old 06-22-2010, 03:07 PM
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Re: What is a Cult?

by the way, here is a link from a monk that i thought properly exegeted the hate your family scripture.

http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/...ate-our-family
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Religious groups that use fear, guilt, and all means of manipulation to control and extort from their subjects...
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I would have to agree!!!
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by the way, here is a link from a monk that i thought properly exegeted the hate your family scripture.

http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/...ate-our-family
One verse says to hate, the other says you must love God more. This is a classic example of a hyperbole.

It's a hyperbolic way of saying your love for God must be so great that it overshadows the love you have for family. God must be #1
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One verse says to hate, the other says you must love God more. This is a classic example of a hyperbole.

It's a hyperbolic way of saying your love for God must be so great that it overshadows the love you have for family. God must be #1
Did you even read the link? I think your scratching the surface (picking up on the hyperbole). Read the link and let's chat.
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Did you even read the link? I think your scratching the surface (picking up on the hyperbole). Read the link and let's chat.
No. I don't see why I need to. It's clearly a hyperbole. Jesus used several oratory devices. He was a preacher. He used parables. He used hyperboles. Its really not that complex
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No. I don't see why I need to. It's clearly a hyperbole. Jesus used several oratory devices. He was a preacher. He used parables. He used hyperboles. Its really not that complex
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No. I don't see why I need to. It's clearly a hyperbole. Jesus used several oratory devices. He was a preacher. He used parables. He used hyperboles. Its really not that complex
Just moving on and saying "it's hyperbole" misses the full weight of what Jesus was saying. If you think re-reading this 1st Century parable is as simple as determining the literary genre, then I think you have much to learn.

You may as well turn away from the Prodigal Son and say, "I get it, it's a parable" without investigating what that story could have meant to the audience when it was said. The land rights, the way inheritances worked, the running of the father, the killing of a fatted calf, the ring, etc... Without reading the parable in a 1st Century lens you miss so much! So obviously determining literary alone is not sufficient.

And, sorry, the whole "hate your mommy" scripture is not a parable! To say parables and hyperbole are automatically to be assumed is false. Try again.

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