Note that this scripture is addressing only wives. Are married women allowed to wear clothes, rdp?
this is part of a post by Timlan from a couple of years ago about Marvin Hicks:
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I don't know how embellished this story was but he has a point. It is really one of the best refutations to those who mindlessly and stupidly Polly-Parrot I Peter 3: 3 to condemn wearing a watch or other jewelry.
Here's the scripture in question:
Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel; (KJV)
Hicks told this anecdote many times in campmeeting messages.
After a campmeeting service he preached Hicks said a 12-13 year old boy approached him.
The boy said: "Preacher, do you believe in wearing a wristwatch?"
Hicks told congregations: "Well, he caught me redhanded. I had one on."
After Hicks told the kid "yes son, it's okay to wear a wristwatch", the boy said "well, have I got a scripture for you" and proceeded to tell the camp evangelist off.
After reading 1 Peter 3: 3 about the "wearing of gold" the boy began to lambast Hicks about preaching a campmeeting with a wristwatch on.
Hicks stopped the boy and calmly told him: "Son, read the rest of that verse. The part about 'apparel.'
The boy said "Apparel? What's that ?"
Hicks: "Son, that's your britches. That's the clothes you wear."
(I've pictured this conversation in my mind's eye over the decades ... it must have been hilarious in person.)
Hicks then told the kid: "Son, I'll make a deal with you. You're chewing me out for wearing a wristwatch and your scripture also says 'the wearing of apparel' in the same verse.
"So I'll make a deal with you, son. I'll take my wristwatch off if you'll take your clothes off."
Well, the kid didn't take the camp evangelist up on his offer.
This was some 30 years ago.
Looking on many pentecostal message boards, it seems a good segment of oneness pentecostalism is no less ignorant.
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this is part of a post by Timlan from a couple of years ago about Marvin Hicks:
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I don't know how embellished this story was but he has a point. It is really one of the best refutations to those who mindlessly and stupidly Polly-Parrot I Peter 3: 3 to condemn wearing a watch or other jewelry.
Here's the scripture in question:
Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel; (KJV)
Hicks told this anecdote many times in campmeeting messages.
After a campmeeting service he preached Hicks said a 12-13 year old boy approached him.
The boy said: "Preacher, do you believe in wearing a wristwatch?"
Hicks told congregations: "Well, he caught me redhanded. I had one on."
After Hicks told the kid "yes son, it's okay to wear a wristwatch", the boy said "well, have I got a scripture for you" and proceeded to tell the camp evangelist off.
After reading 1 Peter 3: 3 about the "wearing of gold" the boy began to lambast Hicks about preaching a campmeeting with a wristwatch on.
Hicks stopped the boy and calmly told him: "Son, read the rest of that verse. The part about 'apparel.'
The boy said "Apparel? What's that ?"
Hicks: "Son, that's your britches. That's the clothes you wear."
(I've pictured this conversation in my mind's eye over the decades ... it must have been hilarious in person.)
Hicks then told the kid: "Son, I'll make a deal with you. You're chewing me out for wearing a wristwatch and your scripture also says 'the wearing of apparel' in the same verse.
"So I'll make a deal with you, son. I'll take my wristwatch off if you'll take your clothes off."
Well, the kid didn't take the camp evangelist up on his offer.
This was some 30 years ago.
Looking on many pentecostal message boards, it seems a good segment of oneness pentecostalism is no less ignorant.
I've responded to this before & again above. I personally know Marvin Hicks, but I believe that he's in error here.
Note that this scripture is addressing only wives. Are married women allowed to wear clothes, rdp?
I've already answered this before, but here she goes again [probably to no avail]: The actual Greek of I Ptr. states "....or putting on of apparel ADORNING." Thus, the Greek text isn't saying that women should not wear clothes [honestly, this is not even worth responding to], but rather the context is showy/extravagant/ostentatious apparel based upon the Greek term for "adorning" that appears after the term "apparel," but not after thern "gold." So much for your "bump"!!
Concerning the gender applicability of the verse, are you suggesting that husbands can be decked out in jewels, w/ long braided hair, & fancy apparel?? I thought there was "neither male, nor female" when it comes to salvifical issues???
I've already answered this before, but here she goes again [probably to no avail]: The actual Greek of I Ptr. states "....or putting on of apparel ADORNING." Thus, the Greek text isn't saying that women should not wear clothes [honestly, this is not even worth responding to], but rather the context is showy/extravagant/ostentatious apparel based upon the Greek term for "adorning" that appears after the term "apparel," but not after thern "gold." So much for your "bump"!!
Concerning the gender applicability of the verse, are you suggesting that husbands can be decked out in jewels, w/ long braided hair, & fancy apparel?? I thought there was "neither male, nor female" when it comes to salvifical issues???
Sorry Charlie, try again!
Didn't see this before, sorry.
(And my wife just left for some errands. Excuse me, I hafta make a quick phone call! )
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I've already answered this before, but here she goes again [probably to no avail]: The actual Greek of I Ptr. states "....or putting on of apparel ADORNING." Thus, the Greek text isn't saying that women should not wear clothes [honestly, this is not even worth responding to], but rather the context is showy/extravagant/ostentatious apparel based upon the Greek term for "adorning" that appears after the term "apparel," but not after thern "gold." So much for your "bump"!!
Sorry Charlie, try again!
1Pe 3:2 While they behold your chaste conversation coupled with fear.
1Pe 3:3 Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel;
1Pe 3:4 But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price.
Its funny to me now after years of thinking I knew the word to find out that what I preached was false. To the point that I was just like RDP. So I know I cannot change his mind on this but for those of you with a searching heart, one that will love your brother regardless of his standards or lack there of, I offer this up.
I Peter 3:2 While the world sees your good conduct coupled with fear.
3:3 Whose outward decoration is not based on the putting on of elaborate clothing like elaborated braiding of the hair, and wearing much gold and costly array.
3:3 But is instead comes from the hidden man of the heart, Those things that are not corruptible like a meek and quiet spirit, which is great in the sight of God.
Read it as you see fit. Jewelery has never been a sin the outlandish putting on of costly array and the attitude from which it stemms from is where the sin is.
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I Peter 3:2 While the world sees your good conduct coupled with fear.
3:3 Whose outward decoration is not based on the putting on of elaborate clothing like elaborated braiding of the hair, and wearing much gold and costly array.
3:3 But is instead comes from the hidden man of the heart, Those things that are not corruptible like a meek and quiet spirit, which is great in the sight of God.
Read it as you see fit. Jewelery has never been a sin the outlandish putting on of costly array and the attitude from which it stemms from is where the sin is.
The scripture is also NOT saying not to put on things, but focusing on the heart issues.
It just seems that some people need solid temporal "things" to attach to salvation so that they feel secure. They don't feel secure in what Christ did on the cross, so they are looking for outward things to help them prove who is going to heaven. The problem is, only God knows the heart so they need to give it up.
The scripture is also NOT saying not to put on things, but focusing on the heart issues.
It just seems that some people need solid temporal "things" to attach to salvation so that they feel secure. They don't feel secure in what Christ did on the cross, so they are looking for outward things to help them prove who is going to heaven. The problem is, only God knows the heart so they need to give it up.
You wear Jewlelry, you're lost. Plain and simple. Stop trying to confuse everyone with your bimbo ideas.
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How long shall I see the standard, and hear the sound of the trumpet?
1 Cor. chapter 14 and verse 8 KJV
8For if the trumpet give an uncertain sound, who shall prepare himself to the battle?
Joel chapter 2 and verse 1
Blow ye the trumpet in Zion, and sound an alarm in my holy mountain: let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the day of the LORD cometh, for it is nigh at hand;
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