UPC Pastor Convicted of Slander in Pulpit!

Charnock · #1 07-13-2010, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Charnock

I am not joking. Pentecostals don't wear bikinis; at least not real Pentecostals. Why was she at a pool with someone other than her husband, and why dressed that way? What was her motivation?

Let's get real. No one, not even a good atheist, goes to the pool with someone other than their spouse dressed like that unless they have a motive that is not godly.

If I were her husband, I would believe the act constituted unfaithfulness (cheating). Her desire was not to him, it was to another.

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Originally Posted by Praxeas

Even if we can all agree it was inappropriate for her to be there, alone, with another man, we don't know that was actually the case.

We also don't know her and the guy were having a sexual affair

It wouldn't matter to me if they were alone, or if they had sex. All that would matter is that she exposed herself to another man, in a calculated fashion.

allstate1 · #2 07-13-2010, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Charnock

It wouldn't matter to me if they were alone, or if they had sex. All that would matter is that she exposed herself to another man, in a calculated fashion.

Whenever you decide to join the real world you will find that not every move a person makes when it come to clothing is of a sexual motiff!!

Praxeas · #3 07-13-2010, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Charnock

It wouldn't matter to me if they were alone, or if they had sex. All that would matter is that she exposed herself to another man, in a calculated fashion.

I doubt she thought she was exposing her self in a calculated manner. She apparently didn't have the same views you do about showing arms and legs being exhibitionism

MissBrattified · #4 07-13-2010, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Charnock

It wouldn't matter to me if they were alone, or if they had sex. All that would matter is that she exposed herself to another man, in a calculated fashion.

If she was an Apostolic, through and through, then it was probably deliberate. I don't know anything about her as a person, though, so how do we know this wasn't the norm? Was she always Apostolic? Was she raised that way? Was she a recent convert? I agree that based on that alone, and from the assumption that she had been used to the conservative, Apostolic lifestyle, her motives could be called into question. It was outside of what was normal behavior for her, presumably. Ergo, it was questionable.

That said, I wouldn't call being seen in a bathing suit or bikini "exposing" oneself. That's usually reserved for completely undressing in front of someone, with all the parts visible. I definitely don't equate wearing a bathing suit with exposing oneself in that sense.

Charnock · #5 07-13-2010, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by MissBrattified

If she was an Apostolic, through and through, then it was probably deliberate. I don't know anything about her as a person, though, so how do we know this wasn't the norm? Was she always Apostolic? Was she raised that way? Was she a recent convert? I agree that based on that alone, and from the assumption that she had been used to the conservative, Apostolic lifestyle, her motives could be called into question. It was outside of what was normal behavior for her, presumably. Ergo, it was questionable.

That said, I wouldn't call being seen in a bathing suit or bikini "exposing" oneself. That's usually reserved for completely undressing in front of someone, with all the parts visible. I definitely don't equate wearing a bathing suit with exposing oneself in that sense.

I think AFF needs to revisit the concept of modesty (appropriateness).

The baby has been thrown out with the bathwater.

jfrog · #6 07-13-2010, 03:19 PM

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I think AFF needs to revisit the concept of modesty (appropriateness).

The baby has been thrown out with the bathwater.

lol.

MissBrattified · #7 07-13-2010, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Charnock

I think AFF needs to revisit the concept of modesty (appropriateness).

The baby has been thrown out with the bathwater.

Good grief, Charnock. I'm not endorsing immodesty. I'm just saying that your wife being immodest isn't reason enough to divorce her. Have you read the story of Hosea and Gomer lately?

Apparently you need to revisit the concept of longterm commitment and keeping your word.

allstate1 · #8 07-13-2010, 03:21 PM

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Good grief, Charnock. I'm not endorsing immodesty. I'm just saying that your wife being immodest isn't reason enough to divorce her. Have you read the story of Hosea and Gomer lately?

Apparently you need to revisit the concept of longterm commitment and keeping your word.

Charnock · #9 07-13-2010, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Good grief, Charnock. I'm not endorsing immodesty. I'm just saying that your wife being immodest isn't reason enough to divorce her. Have you read the story of Hosea and Gomer lately?

Apparently you need to revisit the concept of longterm commitment and keeping your word.

Long term commitment goes bye-bye when adultery occurs.

A wife wanting to expose herself to , and spend naked time alone, with someone other than her husband qualifies.

MissBrattified · #10 07-13-2010, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Charnock

Long term commitment goes bye-bye when adultery occurs.

A wife wanting to expose herself to , and spend naked time alone, with someone other than her husband qualifies.

You mean "nearly naked time alone", right?

1. We don't know that they were alone. Even if other friends weren't present, it MIGHT have been a public pool.

2. She wasn't naked. Naked isn't the same as wearing underwear.