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[Charnock]

Originally Posted by Maximilian

Doofus? Really? Mighty loud bark you have there Mr. Set-Everyone-Straight.

That really only took a quick reply: "I was quite critical of LS. To see more here's the link from the LS thread"

My point is, you weren't there defending LS. That was my unspoken assumption as well.

So to Baron you asked what business of his is it where a man got his education from. But to LS, you were quite upset and questioned his motive. Inconsistent?

Not at all.

SEU is a diploma mill, South Africa is not.

[Charnock]

I have answered your questions.

I have more important people to talk to now.

See ya.

[Baron1710]

Originally Posted by Charnock

I believe it only matters to men who wish to teach or are in circles of influence in which such a degree is considered necessary. I do not believe an educator should be held to a higher standard. The same standard of integrity should permeate every marketplace.

Honestly, Mickey Mouse? No one would take that seriously. However, South Africa appears to be legit, even if it doesn't meet your approval.

I have a feeling the rush for degrees is a product of the heightened expectations of parishioners. The rules changed on my generation in the middle of the game. College was once considered a nice addition to a resume, now it's a requirement. Some men are well up in years, yet lack the necessary initials, so they take shortcuts. Unethical men will cheat to meet those expectations.

And DKB doesn't fall into this category?

[Maximilian]

Originally Posted by Charnock

I believe it only matters to men who wish to teach or are in circles of influence in which such a degree is considered necessary.


I do not believe an educator should be held to a higher standard. You just contradicted yourself in the first thing you said.
The same standard of integrity should permeate every marketplace. Which is?

Honestly, Mickey Mouse? No one would take that seriously. However, South Africa appears to be legit, even if it doesn't meet your approval. Based on what and compared to what?

I have a feeling the rush for degrees is a product of the heightened expectations of parishioners. The rules changed on my generation in the middle of the game. College was once considered a nice addition to a resume, now it's a requirement. Some men are well up in years, yet lack the necessary initials, so they take shortcuts. Unethical men will cheat to meet those expectations.

Seminary only matters to those who are educators and teachers? Then later you say it's the parishioners who have those expectations. Why do you think?

My question with Mickey Mouse vs. Yale Divinity wasn't really answered. Let's change Mickey Mouse to Charlie Brown University. Point being, does it matter for sake of credibility?

Do you prefer your leaders be educated in the subjects they teach? Do you appreciate that?

[mizpeh]

Originally Posted by Maximilian

Seminary only matters to those who are educators and teachers? Then later you say it's the parishioners who have those expectations. Why do you think?

My question with Mickey Mouse vs. Yale Divinity wasn't really answered. Let's change Mickey Mouse to Charlie Brown University. Point being, does it matter for sake of credibility?

Do you prefer your leaders be educated in the subjects they teach? Do you appreciate that?

It's not a requirement. College is not a requirement for teaching the word of God.

[Maximilian]

Originally Posted by Charnock

Not at all.

SEU is a diploma mill, South Africa is not.

What does it matter to you?

Didn't you base your criticism on the fact that you bust your butt and others are taking short-cuts? Would you believe that Diploma Mills aren't the only situation under the category "academic shortcuts?"

Is it important to you because the diploma mill isn't quality education or that it's fake? If only the latter, I don't understand your "shortcut" rant on LS.

[Maximilian]

Originally Posted by mizpeh

It's not a requirement. College is not a requirement for teaching the word of God.

Should it be?

Are the reasons why it should be? Should it be encouraged more?

How do modern, uneducated thinkers handle ancient text? Interpret 1st Century Romans letters? Understand basic theology? Understand Jewish influence on early Christianity? Toil through challenged positions, forced to defend or adapt? Do you think what is learned in the most remedial of Bible Schools is not profitable? If your whole life will be teaching something, and you have the ability to obtain a quality education on that something, why not?

[Maximilian]

Originally Posted by Charnock

I have answered your questions.

I have more important people to talk to now.

See ya.

[Maximilian]

Originally Posted by Charnock

Are you ashamed of your work?

No, I was facetiously embellishing it. There is no book.

[MrMasterMind]

Originally Posted by MrMasterMind

And to think I was thinking about getting a MDiv from UGST, where he is president. Cost over $26,000 in tuition. Three years of classes.

When I could follow his lead. For THREE grand and a few months, write a paper get a Masters?

Thanks for the heads up.

Originally Posted by joyful

This is really the heart of the matter. However unintentionally, this is sending a terrible message.

BUMP for Char

Originally Posted by Charnock

how is it any of your concern where they are from? DKB owes no one an explanation

If he were not PRESIDENT of a SEMINARY himself then perhaps not, but as GS, premiere apologist published by PPH AND PRESIDENT of the ONLY UPCI Seminary, then yes, yes he does!