Tithe-vs-Paying Your Bills

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

Speaking if taxes, dores a king tax strangers or his sons?

Strangers.

Great point!

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

True, When I taught it to new converts that was the case. Certain things have been put in us as sacred. That's why it's so hard to let it go.

Such is the bondage of religion.

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Strangers.

Great point!

Are we no more strangers? Now sons of God!! My father wouldn't never tax me. I have a DNA connection

[Aquila]

What legacy or witness does the teaching of required "tithing" show a lost world???

Comments are interesting...

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...2043259AAFzo3P

[onefaith2]

Originally Posted by Aquila

The word "obey" in the verse you gave is,

3982 // peiyw // peitho // pi'-tho //

a primary verb; TDNT - 6:1,818; v

AV - persuade 22, trust 8, obey 7, have confidence 6, believe 3,
be confident 2, misc 7; 55

1) persuade
1a) to persuade, i.e. to induce one by words to believe
1b) to make friends of, to win one's favour, gain one's good
will, or to seek to win one, strive to please one
1c) to tranquillise
1d) to persuade unto i.e. move or induce one to persuasion to
do something
2) be persuaded
2a) to be persuaded, to suffer one's self to be persuaded; to
be induced to believe: to have faith: in a thing
2a1) to believe
2a2) to be persuaded of a thing concerning a person
2b) to listen to, obey, yield to, comply with
3) to trust, have confidence, be confident

It means to be persuaded by through Biblical teaching. It doesn't mean you are to "obey" their edicts. If something isn't supported in Scripture, they can rant all day long. Obedience isn't required of you.

To a true pastor, their "edicts" as you call it are God inspired. You are definitely right, obedience isn't required to those who are outside apostolic order.

[onefaith2]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Such is the bondage of religion.

Yes, throw off religion!

Get a relationship instead. I have one that includes tithing

[onefaith2]

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

Mal 2:1
2:1 And now, O ye priests, this commandment is for you.
KJV


He never stops speaking to them through chapter 2 into 3. This why he says Ye have robbed me EVEN this whole nation(people). Wouldn't make since to say nation if the nation(people) was doing the robbing.

So he never stops speaking, yet the verses cleary show he did? Rightly dividing the word certainly can change ones interpretation.

[onefaith2]

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

Are we no more strangers? Now sons of God!! My father wouldn't never tax me. I have a DNA connection

No your father would say, sell all your possessions and give to the poor and follow me if you were rich.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by onefaith2

To a true pastor, their "edicts" as you call it are God inspired. You are definitely right, obedience isn't required to those who are outside apostolic order.

God never inspires beyond or outside of the teachings of Scripture.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by onefaith2

Yes, throw off religion!

Get a relationship instead. I have one that includes tithing

Nothing wrong with "tithing" a tenth of one's income as long as it originated in the heart of the individual to do so. However, if your church teaches that you must to be a member in good standing or to be used... the pastor and church leaders are guilty of extortion.

I'd welcome anyone to become a "covenant partner" by commtting to give 10%. However, I'd never teach that they must or they'd have robbed God. Nor would I require it to be used or to be considered a "member in good standing".